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Hi, everyone we'll get started.

So I'd like to first acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation

upon whose ancestral lands the UTS city campus now stands.

I pay respect to the Elders both past and present acknowledging them as the

traditional custodians of knowledge for this land and as people of great

ingenuity and innovation. Hi,

and welcome to today's panel Careers in a Green Economy.

My name is Dr. Kristine Aquino,

and I'm the coordinator of the Bachelor of Sustainability and Environment at

UTS, a degree we launched this year that trains students in the environmental,

economic, social,

and cultural dimensions of sustainability and equips them with skills in

tackling sustainability issues across different sectors and industry.

Sustainability is one of the biggest global issues of our time.

And as such work in sustainability is growing across all sectors around the

world.

So this degree can be combined with the Bachelor of Business,

Bachelor of Management, Bachelor of Economics, Bachelor of Science,

or the Bachelor of Health Science.

And it only adds one extra year to the study in these degrees.

So a total of four years of full-time study, for example.

So it equips students with skills in a range of skills in data literacy, program

evaluation, systems analysis, critical and creative inquiry,

community engagement, collaborative teamwork, project management,

and many others. So it's unique in this interdisciplinary structure.

It's the first combined degree offered in Australia for sustainability studies

at the undergraduate level.

So it adds specialist knowledge on environmental and economic and social

sustainability to the partner degree,

giving graduates an added edge in the job market.

So our program is also committed,

especially to providing students with local and international industry

engagement and experience throughout the degree,

making them job-ready once they graduate.

And this panel today highlights the value we place on industry engagement and

insight here at UTS,

we have four panelists with us to discuss the growing career pathways in

sustainability or in the government,

NGO and business sectors and including in the Asian region.

So before I introduce the panel, just some quick housekeeping,

so please put all your questions in the Q&A box, and

as well this webinar is being recorded and will be available to view,

and you can contact us for further information after this panel.

So I want to kick off the panel by introducing our panel members.

We have with us, Branden Barber,

CEO of Rainforest Rescue,

a global not-for-profit partnering with government agencies,

NGOs and businesses to save and restore Australian and international rainforest.

Starting with a degree in environmental studies from UC Santa Cruz,

he cut his seated Greenpeace international on the rainbow warrior and then ran

the Victorian state office for Greenpeace Australia. Over the past 25 years,

he's worked in both the social profit and for profit sectors from startups to

S&P 500 companies to NGOs large and small.

He is an organizational engagement and development professional supporting and

driving environmental and social justice initiatives. He's joined by Christina,

my back a multi-skilled marketing and communications professional with over 12

years of experience, working with corporate market leaders,

as well as small and medium sized entities on an international scale,

including her own startup business, Indie & Isaac,

which is a sustainable kids' clothing brand that aims at combating fast

fashion, which sustainably sourced and ethically manufactured wardrobe staples.

And we also have Kamala Dash and assistant professor in public policy and

management at Sri Sri University in India and director of the university's

climate change and sustainability center.

He has been trained in climate change education from the Nobel Laureate algos,

the climate reality project in the US in the office and has conducted several

training programs in areas of environment, communication, public policy,

higher education, and sustainability and rounding off the panel.

We have a current bachelor of sustainability and environment,

student Sian Hamilton currently taking the degree with

Bachelor of Business.

She was also working at the UTS Institute of Sustainable Futures,

an administrative assistant.

Sian is enjoying exploring the sustainability field while being introduced to

people with a variety of passions. She uncovers areas of interests.

So our panel is facilitated by my colleague, professor,

Kate Barclay from the School of International Studies and Education,

and who is also one of the teaching stuff in the degree, along with myself,

she's a leading social scientist researching in the social aspects of fisheries

at a time when industry and government are increasingly recognizing the

importance of the human dimensions in sustainable fisheries.

So welcome everyone. And thank you for your time today,

and I'll hand it over to you, Kate.

Thanks, Kristine.

I'd like to kick it off with Branden first.

Could you in about three minutes,

give us an overview of your jobs that you do now,

as well as a brief history of your own career history and what led you to having

a career in the green economy?

Sure. Hi, everyone.

So I'm the CEO of Rainforest Rescue and

Rainforest Rescue is in the business of primarily we've shifted our focus

to be less broad and really honed in on the Daintree Rainforest in far north

Queensland,

which is the most ancient of rainforests in Australia's largest and most

biodiverse. I originally thought I was going to be a psychologist like my dad.

And while I was at UC Santa Cruz as a freshman,

I was just falling asleep. I was in my dorm room,

which I shared with Ted and as I was falling asleep, I sat up right.

And I said out loud, the planet I have to help the planet and Ted said,

shut up, go back to sleep.

And the next day I changed my major and became an environmental

studies student. And my first job out of uni was with Greenpeace.

And as you heard, I,

I ran the Greenpeace office in Victoria and then I wound up developing

Greenpeace's first website, which was someone had to do it.

And it was the new thing back then.

And then I took some time to play in the whole sort of new media world

and learned a lot about brand strategy and marketing and wound up jumping back

into the good fight as I like to call it as development director at rainforest

action network.

And then at Amazon Watch focusing on the Amazon Rainforest as a

fundraiser. And I didn't realize that fundraising was cool,

but it's activism and it's a beautiful nexus point

for engaging people around, you know, what they care about.

So, that's me, and that's how I got here.

I'm really excited to be part of Rainforest Rescue and really happy to share

with you.

Thank you, Branden. Kamala,

could you give us an overview of your job and your career

trajectory and what led you to having this career?

you. I've come alone now working at Sri Sri University,

I studied political science [inaudible]

public policy at Monash University in Australia,

and that kind of training of it,

was very very useful for coming back to India and thinking of making a

contribution.

What I like about Australia education is that they actually instill that

confidence at one level and also that responsibility that whatever training and

education getting [inaudible]. So in that way, that was the inspiration from

coastal state is largely affected [inaudible]

of several disasters. And now in last 20 years,

what emerged as a disaster management leader in Asia-Pacific MiTek minister,

Mr. [inaudible] has made the industry models,

which are the United Nations and others are formulating now.

So this is the backdrop and context where I joined the new university's

develop [audible] center for climate change and sustainability.

So my training in social sciences, political science, economics, law,

and governance helped me to navigate the interdisciplinary nature of climate

change and sustainability to an extent where I'm more

capable or perhaps competent to engage with the subject at the

company level, at the community level,

at the level of management means business leaders that, so that,

so that kind of education is introduced and I'm very happy that

UTS has launched just such an interdisciplinary program,

which is absolutely absolutely important. And fantastic.

Thank you, Kamala. Now let's ask Christina,

if you could give us a quick three minute overview of your job and how you

came to be doing running your small company.

Thank you, Kate.

My Australian journey actually started 12 years ago when I came here

as an international student from Germany. And after I graduated,

I've been working across a variety of different marketing and communication

roles from for small startups, but also big,

bigger global conglomerates.

And having worked for the corporate world all my life,

I really felt the urge to do something more purpose-driven.

I realized, I just,

I needed to do something that would make the world a better place.

And when my son, Isaac arrived three years ago,

it truly changed my outlook on life.

And I felt like all of a sudden I was responsible not just for myself anymore,

but also for him and his kids and their kids. And then parallel to that,

I I realized how much or how fast kids were growing out of their clothing.

And I started looking into more sustainable brands that I could buy from.

But to my surprise, they were really a handful that I could turn to.

And then I started doing some serious research into, into the fashion industry.

And I found that the fashion industry was responsible for over

10% of global carbon emissions, which is just so bad.

And it's also the second largest consumer in terms of water

the world's water supply and over 75% of supply chain textiles end

up in landfill.

So there is just so much waste associated with that industry.

And it's really a dirty business. And look at it,

it got worse because if we think of polyester,

which is just a fancy term of plastic, right? We

wash that in our washing machine and it actually releases tiny little

microplastics into the waterways,

which then end up in our oceans and fish ingest that plastic.

And in turn,

they end up on our plates and we eat the fish and we also eat the plastic.

So in order to disrupt the fast fashion industry,

I started my own business to provide parents with a more eco-friendly

alternative to some of the fashion brands or kids' clothing.

That was, that was out there. And at Indie & Isaac,

it's our main aim to change consumerism and to

reduce fashion waste to landfill by educating parents and the public

about the impact that choices have on the planet.

And we only sell brands that have really strict sustainability practices in

place and brands that align with our own values

and brands that, yeah, look after their employees, their workers,

and their communities and planet as a, as a whole.

And we also offer a buyback guarantee of over 100 brands that we define

our sustainable to keep more fashion in the circular economy and

to yeah. To reduce fashion waste going to landfill.

And I think the circular economy model is really critical when we talk about

sustainability because in a circular economy, there is no waste.

And I'm looking at some of the

sustainable businesses I've been working with over the past years.

It's really something we need to adopt and

educate more about. Because it looks at, you know,

the sourcing of the materials all the way through to the end of life,

disposal of products. And ultimately, fashion shouldn't cost lives,

and it shouldn't cost the planet. And it's as simple as that.

Thank you, Christina. Sian, I'd like to come to you now,

if you could tell us in a few minutes about yourself,

what made you enroll in the Bachelor of Sustainability and Environment here at

UTS? Thanks, Kate.

Hi everyone, I'm Sian. And as you would have heard,

I am currently studying in UTS in Bachelor of Sustainability and

Environment.

And I decided that I was going to pair that with Bachelor of Business.

So that's what I'm currently doing. I'm in my first year at the moment,

but I actually didn't originally choose this degree when I first came out of

uni. So I was originally at a different uni just studying business.

And then I just wasn't feeling inspired enough of my liking.

So I started searching around and I actually found UTS has brand new degree

online. So I had a look and it looked amazing.

It was hands-on and it looked like the teaching team was passionate and from a

variety of different areas and it just looked amazing,

but I was already in a degree,

so I just closed the tab and moved on with my life until I was there three

months later, still thinking about that degree.

So I decided that this is exactly what I was looking for.

I had been slowly becoming more interested in sustainability in my final

years of high school, doing little projects and slowly it was consuming my life.

And I decided that that was my passion and where I wanted to go.

So I dropped my old degree and I chose to come to UTS.

And I'm very excited to be part of this degree and very proud because I think

it's a very special degree and have no regrets of choosing this path at

all.

Thank you. I'm very glad to hear it. Okay.

Now I'd like to ask Branden and Christina, some,

a couple of quick question about the, well,

the Australian perspective,

and then I'll move on to a slightly different question to ask Kamala.

So for Branden and Christina,

companies and organizations are increasingly seeing sustainability as a core

part of their business,

and how can you see this in your industry or the organizations that you

work with? And could you give some examples?

So this time I might start with Christina first and then move to Branden.

Thanks, Kate. Yes.

I feel like the past decade has certainly been all about awareness and

the public waking to the problems of plastic pollution and global warming.

And that was critical because in order to improve or lessen

your environmental footprint, you have to understand at first,

and I've certainly seen a shift from

businesses transforming their entire supply chains to become more

sustainable and much more transparency as well from businesses through their

annual sustainability reports or yeah,

give back programs like, you know,

donating to conservation organizations like rainforest rescue or planting

more trees. And the last 10,

five to 10 years have seen extreme growth in the sustainability space

across all disciplines, not just fashion, but also, you know,

renewable energy and, and packaging.

And I've also witnessed the rise of b corps or so-called benefit corporations

who are

new types of entities and they are not, not for profits,

but they are purpose driven businesses who donate percentages of their sales or

profits to conservation organizations or

yeah. People in need or they become

certified carbon neutral to give back as much as they take from the

planet, but also, well,

despite the rise of conscious companies,

I also think that there's a lot of greenwashing across all industries,

meaning that some companies make very vague or faulty

sustainability claims purely because their marketing hooks to drive more

sales. And I think now more than ever,

it's really important that we educate the public around that and that we equip

them with the knowledge to combat greenwashing and for

fashion, for example, in fashion, it's really simple.

You would just look out for certifications and if a brand,

if a brand can provide any sort of certifications don't buy from that

company you know, people cannot put their wallet where their mouth is.

They can use the purchasing power to drive positive change.

And I've certainly seen that shift.

And particularly with the next generation generation Z two of the

main priorities are intersectional environmentalism and

climate change, and they stand alongside Greta Thunberg,

they take it to the streets. They have witnessed the decay of our world and,

you know, the impacts global warming has already had on our nature. Like,

just look at all the natural disasters that are happening everywhere in the

world.

So I've definitely witnessed change.

And I think sustainability is no longer just a trend it's,

it's become a mindset and a way of living and people are ready to

fight for change and to make this world a better place. And yeah,

I've seen it in form of increasing sales,

but I've also noticed it from all the overwhelmingly positive feedback we get

through our social media communities and through letters I get from extremely

happy customers. Thanks.

Thank you. Brandon?

I wonder if you could give us your perspective on how sustainability is

part of a core part of business now?

Sure. Christina, that was such a beautiful answer.

I feel like you're an excellent example of the new

wave of businesses. You know,

that the environmental organizations it's bet you're better than some of the

environmental organizations were 10 years ago. That was really inspiring.

Really good to hear.

So it's a funny question for me because Rainforest Rescue you know,

helps other businesses deepen their sustainability.

So as Christina was saying you know,

businesses that want to give back businesses that want to

you know, be part of the solution to the challenges that our planet,

that our biosphere, that our ecosystems are facing. I, you know,

it's not easy to start in an environmental initiative,

that's gonna make a big difference. There's a great commercial.

I want everyone to go to YouTube and look up Rainrorest Alliance,

follow the frog. Particularly those of you that are in marketing,

you'll love it. You know,

you don't have to give up your job and go to the Amazon and you know,

help organize indigenous peoples to fight the oil companies. You know,

Greenpeace will do that or Amazon Watch we'll do that. And, you know,

rainforest rescue has a really robust business partnerships program that

enables businesses to, to be part of our work.

And it's a real partnership and we have different types of relationships that

people can can engage with. You can have, you know,

tier level partners where people can be, you know,

all the way up to a platinum level based on how much money their organization

gives,

which equates to the number of trees that we plant and then maintain over a

couple of years until they form a canopy and they're good on their own.

There's the canopy club,

which means that businesses can just put whatever they want really

into our program on an annual basis. Then there's 1% for rainforest rescue,

which is 1% of profits,

but those are all examples of businesses are hungry for

being part of the solution. And, you know,

for too long businesses have been part of the extractive exploitative

system, and it's killing us. And it's clear now that that's the case,

and that's why you guys are looking at the sustainability discipline and

it's really good news. And it's,

it's really exciting to see that that non-profit organizations no

longer have to rely just on individuals or government grants or

philanthropic grants,

but businesses are becoming a real force for good and a force for positive

environmental change and sustainability.

The, the reference to be corpse I think is a really important one.

If y'all don't know what B corporations are, literally just go Google it.

B Corps are businesses that want to give back and instead of your

triple bottom line, it's the quadruple bottom line. So it's,

it's good for people and planet and it's it's it

gives me great hope and B Corps started in the US but now they're all over the

world.

And Australia has a really great growing community of B corporations.

Thanks, Branden. Kamala,

could you give us a perspective from Asia on this,

on this shift towards sustainability being part of the core

business of many organizations now.

Yes, sustainability or green jobs are way too important.

And by 2030, and assessment

by [inaudible] and 24 million people will be required

in the sustainable economy to form green jobs.

And that is mainstream, 24 million jobs and that,

and one day, because there are more green jobs required as well. So,

and all companies will be transferring or shifting their base from a

fossil fuel base to energy renewable base,

and from carbon base with decarbonised base.

So is this [inaudible] which just happened,

started happening with the major industries that are greenwashing definitely

yes, that we agree with that,

but suddently industries are very very keen taking this forward and government

civil society. Asia

is going to get up after 2024,

you'll see more opportunities coming out and more people,

people who will be graduating from your institution and university will get the

umpteen number of opportunities,

not only just to intern research and contribute,

but to get a job and also perhaps become entrepreneurs, climate entrepreneurs.

So these are certain opportunities in emerging.

I can take the case of India as I can see the prime

minister Narendra Modi has been very very keen on sustainability as he's one of

the founders of the [inaudible] president,

then president International Solar Alliance.

So solar is becoming very huge in India,

and slowly is very surprising that the economic policy they have

followed is actually rising the price of the flue. But by the end of,

they are accurately incentivizing

[inaudible] and electric car [inaudible] EVs are becoming very important,

and we have a several motor companies

[inaudible] with us,

but we do not have enough people who understand how society, economy,

and industry interact with each other in on text.

Responsibility's another sector where that will be going a long,

a lot of requirement of people who are dreamed and the triple bottom

line people, profit and planet. So by something like what you are giving here,

his brilliant and Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia, China,

and South Asia,

you'll see a lot of jobs that we need to come up in there because he's very keen

to catch up with the developed world.

Thank you, Kamala.

I'd like to ask you now what your career aspirations

are and how you think a double degree might help you with this.

And also any experiences you've had so far in exploring

professional pathways within the degree.

People often ask me when I tell them that I'm doing sustainability,

what I'd like to do. And I have to be honest at this point, I have no idea.

I'm okay with that right now, considering I'm in the, in my first year,

I'm not too stressed about it.

And what makes it even less stressful is that the degree has already within one

and a half semesters opened my eyes to so many possibilities.

So I do know what I do know is that I'd like to make

sustainability more accessible to everyone because I've seen in a lot of

conversations I've had that people are somewhat paralyzed at times by

their, some people call it eco anxiety,

or just not being sure exactly what to do,

because it's such an overwhelming and such a large issue.

So making it accessible to people, individuals, and also to businesses.

So by studying my double degree with business,

it allows me to understand how businesses operate in the status quo and

how that might be able to change by pairing it with my sustainability degree.

So I have a good base in business, and then I can use that to have a,

quite an impactful career. I hope. But also in the degree,

we've already had an industry panel in our, one of our subjects.

So we had an, a panel with people from Deloitte.

There was someone from health infrastructure, new south Wales and just,

there were a few other people in there that just showed us that there are lots

of different paths that we can take with, with our sustainability degree.

And also depending on which other double degree you do.

So a lot of the science students found it helpful to see which science pathway

they might take or health science or management as well.

So I don't know is the answer,

but being surrounded by lecturers and also panelists and different

opportunities to see what the possibilities are certainly makes it a lot less

stressful and quite exciting as well.

So this question is for Branden,

Kamala and Christina, over the next five years,

what do you think are the key sustainability challenges that organizations will

need to grapple with and what kind of jobs will these challenges create and what

kind of skills or qualifications will people seeking those jobs need to have?

So I might start this time with Kamala and then go to Branden and

Christina.

Yeah. I think a lot of job opportunities are already happening because of

[inaudible] around the world. Our, our balance

matters a lot for our survival,

not just our survival survival of the next generation.

So that is one the COVID has made many more people

equal wage, organic wage and become educated in at some places.

And they've started planting.

So these awarenesses are actually dawning are happening among the

consumers. If I take that work on the market, chief consumer

greenwashing, the lesson,

that one will be that we'll be posting the business,

this and the documents to take action on sustainability agenda, which is 2030.

That is one upgrade I'm seeing. And second trend, I was,

I I'm very hopeful that the companies will be Celtic clearing that these

products are eco-friendly and they will be subtly.

Certainly weighing the bio-degradable weight, how, whenever it is possible,

this is the point of the two, one number three,

that will be a five bag arrangement that is worth you must start asking for,

for example, it's a footwear, which is not usable,

but by the flux of the company.

So by the circular economy is going to be tapped and sustainable

fashion. And that is definitely, that is going to be very, very important.

So apart from the automobile industry, the fossil fuel industry, the coal,

renewable energy or sustainable fasteners are going to be very,

very fashionable in the days to come.

So people who are skillful to navigate to economics, to environment,

to environment, impact assessment,

to community engagement through our Ms creation policy analyst is kind of

understanding how climate change is happening discussions at the diplomacy

level,

and that they are the ones who are the best suited to make any difference or

making change or advocate for better skills will be definitely

communication and community, organization,

fundraising, and all that. And, and, and definitely in it,

our miss at the international thing that is happening around the world and your

connection with the world as well. Thank you.

Thanks. Christina,

what are your perspectives on this question of challenges over the next five

years and the kinds of skills and things needed?

So I think why the last decade was all about, you know, awareness.

The next five to 10 years will be all about speed and acceleration.

And the early adopters have adopted long time ago.

So I feel like now we're going mainstream,

and we need to get everyone on board and really future proof our being.

But I also think that there are other challenges that we're facing that you

might not always link to sustainability directly.

For example, in 2020,

the International Women's Day promoted the message and equal world is an enabled

world to encourage people, to find buyers and empower women.

Because when you empower women,

you empower communities because women tend to share their knowledge and empower

others with their knowledge. And I think in regards to fashion,

it's important to know that most factory workers are women and they're working

long hours, and they're often working in really dangerous conditions.

And they're working for brands like Zara and H&M brands we buy from every day,

right? So they might not get paid a living wage.

And when you buy from these brands,

you basically support the exploitation of these workers and

women shouldn't have to risk their lives to be able to feed their families.

I believe that gender parity and social justice globally are two

issues that brands have to address and have to get behind

to not just stay economically competitive,

but also to show to consumers who made their clothes because

consumers would want to know.

And as for the kinds of job in demand or who I think will be

increasingly more important,

I think that and that also might address Sian's

comments around, you know, not knowing what career she can see for herself.

I wouldn't stress too much because I think with a sustainability degree,

you can almost do anything. You can go into any industry and, and create change.

And any industry will have to reinvent itself over the next three to five

years to mitigate climate change.

And you could work as a sustainability manager or a sustainability consultant.

And again, you can do that for any industry.

But I also see roles in sustainable design or sustainable

architecture

increase over the next decade because we will have to build more sustainable

cities that look after all that feature,

urban farms and energy conservation,

but also environmental scientists who understand and who can

predict the trajectory we're on and how we can change that trajectory

to to combat climate change. And last but not least,

I wanted to say we also need more influences like

teachers academics,

but also politicians who understand climate change and who can,

who can implement legislation and,

and empower others to to, to follow. So I think, yeah, as,

as as soon as we understand the impact global

warming and plastic pollution has on our cities on animals,

but also the future of our children, you know,

we might not throw away that pair of jeans next time we might actually fix it

and keep it for another year or two and look in the end, no one is perfect,

but understanding the problem is the first,

and I think the most important step towards yeah, facing,

sorry, addressing the problems that we're facing today.

And yeah, we need more, we need not,

we need more inspiring leaders to yeah.

To create the change that we want to see. Thanks.

Branden,

what do you think the big challenges are in the next five years and the kinds of

jobs that will be associated with that?

Well, the kinds of challenges in the next five years Christina,

that was excellent. You're hired.

I think one of the jobs, well,

I think sustainability has a place everywhere, right? Like, you know,

once upon a time we thought that

politicians would do the right thing.

If only there was enough supports to push them in the right direction.

And we believed,

I believed that they were generally good people who are trying to do a good job

for the people they represented. That would be lovely if that were the case.

It does not seem to be so,

and it's going to take all of us to,

to move the needle, you know, towards sustainability.

And I have a real problem with the word sustainability.

We were talking about it earlier.

It's just such a boring vanilla beige kind of word. Like, you know,

when do we get to thriving you? Well, we've got, we've got a ways to go,

but having sustainability in the ethics at the

core of every business is essential just as I used to believe that all

politicians were good people trying to serve the people they represented.

I actually believed that that everybody has

a stake in, in doing the right thing.

And it's becoming quite clear with global warming and the kinds of

terrible news that we're,

we're seeing on a regular and increasingly frequent basis.

So yes, you know, you can do,

you can do more with sustainability at your core for a

greener healthier planet so that we can all thrive into the future seven

generations.

If you take sustainability with you and there are all kinds of great jobs that

have emerged that didn't exist 10 years ago, I mean,

who thought there would be a chief sustainability officer at every major

corporation now? But as Christina said, you know, it's about leadership.

You know,

we need leaders and everyone has the ability to be a leader wherever they

are. And it's something that we all have to step up and, and do you know,

we've got to end exploitation, we've got to stop thinking about humanity first.

You know,

we're not the only ones here and it's not enough to say let's make it

sustainable. Let's make it, let's make it equitable. You know, let's,

let's make it a world, not just for the people to,

to be sustained. No, let's do it for all. Life is a beautiful planet. You know,

we didn't inherit it, you know we,

we,

we belong to it and we can take care of it in whatever we do,

but arming ourselves with the knowledge of,

of what we need to do in order to make it right. And that's where it starts.

You know, we need to, we need to build it back and we need to nurture it.

You know, fast fashion is an issue. Deforestation is an issue,

pick your issue, dive into it.

But whatever you do make it part of who you are and be that leader. Yeah.

And check out the STGs as well while we're at it.

Thanks Branden. Actually,

before you escape I would like to ask you

there's one grounding of question for each of the three of you before we go to

the general question and answer is to what is the role of cross-disciplinary

understanding into, in tackling sustainability challenges?

So if we could

start with Branden us,

what you see the role of cross-disciplinary understandings are in these

challenge.

Sure. I kind of,

I kind of spilled into that with my way word answer to the last question,

but it has to be crossed is a plenary, you know,

the problems that we're dealing with, they're not simple,

straightforward problems anymore.

They're becoming increasingly complex and they require new ways of thinking and

new ways of being, you know, and for that, we're all gonna have to big date.

We're all gonna have to commit to making the most of this amazing life that

we've been given by being the very best people we can be.

Again, you know, we didn't inherit the earth, we belong to it. So, you know,

whatever you do, you're going to have to bring multiple hats to the table,

be a good advocate, be a compassionate activist, be a thoughtful ally,

learn to communicate better than you can believe and to

engage and enroll others as a way of life speak on behalf of

nature's wholeness and regeneration take that into whatever

career you choose this or, or whichever career chooses you.

Thanks, Branden. The way of regeneration is a good one.

If we're thinking of alternatives to sustainability. I

would like to ask Kamala and then Christina,

what they think about the role of cross-disciplinary understanding in the

challenges we're facing.

This is a climate change just on the

[inaudible] and cross-disciplinarity whatever word you want to use.

Multi-Disciplinary and non-disciplinary that shouldn't be in any discipline,

not such to talk about the [inaudible] scientists have gotten up there

and they have given up now. That's like, okay, every once,

but that's a good thing to do.

So I think a public policy that I come from where I have been able to get it

government and get it,

their political leaders so that they can become brand ambassadors of certain

things. So creating brand of Buster's ship. And

that's a very important, so management economics

[inaudible] studies in general literature,

very important how you do a drama on theater and attract the attention people,

and also knowledge of the past kind of in indigenous communities.

What we are thinking about the nature of the planet, the environment,

maybe the climate change was not that serious at that time and in the

memory, what is this? So trying to understand that. So

[inaudible] kind of interdisciplinarity thinking, every,

each flavor actually specifies become a story, but you understand, look at

the end of

multiple subjects coming together and giving the sense of what climate change

natural is doing and how the chips can be tackled as well.

So if it's interdisciplinary and I see a lot of value in public policy and

communication, that's where.

Thank you, Kamala. Christina,

or do you think about cross disciplinary understanding?

To be honest,

I'm not sure if I can add much to Brendan and Kamala's responses.

There were pretty perfect,

but I still I'd like to say we cannot solve

the climate crisis by just shouting at politicians alone rice,

and look, don't get me wrong. I'm an activist. And I,

I totally believe in the power of our collective, but we do need scientists.

We need data analysts. We need politicians,

we need marketing and communication managers who,

who can articulate the message to the world. And we need leaders to,

to make a change.

And we need CEOs who lead by example and who create

sustainable purpose-driven businesses that put people

before profits.

And I think you require a cross-disciplinary education for

that.

Thank you. Okay.

So the next part of what we're doing today is a general question

answer. And so we're moving to some questions that are,

have been posted in the Q&A part of the webinar.

And the first one we have is

aside from the clothing industry,

are there any other industries that we wouldn't think of that are unsustainable?

So like to pass this to the panel, can anyone

tell us about an industry that we might not have thought of

that has some serious sustainability problems? Brandon,

I see you took your mic off.

All of them? But, but you know,

in all seriousness, everything is still level up.

And if you want to look at industries that really need help

agriculture, huge energy, huge

yeah, those two right there. Go fix that. That would be excellent.

Those are the ones that come up immediately, but you know,

keep going publishing, you know,

you see a lot of cheap books now coming out of China and they don't have the

same requirements for sustainability that you'd find in other countries.

So you get cheap. You know, and they're just mowing forest down.

Forestry, there's another good one to tackle.

My idea of an excellent forestry industry is one that doesn't cut down.

Trees let's make that one real.

Yeah,

actually I had the other day about Bitcoin and because there's so much activity

that goes on with Bitcoin and it requires so many servers that are using so much

energy, there's huge greenhouse gas emissions, apparently from Bitcoin.

So that was one that surprised me.

Another question we have is what kind of jobs can I

do with this degree? I think we,

the panelists did cover quite a few of the different kinds of jobs.

So many organizations have now either sustainability officers or

sustainability managers or coordinators, and actually a lot of organizations.

It's not just one person. It's a small team now.

As well as more specific things like sustainability engineers,

we then help for engineering,

but there are you could be a sustainability marketing

manager and be working on some of those things around the marketing

angles of sustainability.

Do any of the panel members have an answer to this question about the

kinds of jobs that are possible with the degree in sustainability and

environment mixed with the other degrees that we've got here at UTS,

which I've been at business management health

and Kristine might help you in with the other ones that I've forgotten.

And Ecnomics.

I think we mentioned a few earlier, but yeah, anything from,

you know, in my mental scientists, health scientists,

data analysts who understand the trajectory we're on

and who can help us, you know,

or who can tell us how much less meat do we have to eat?

How much less waste do we have to produce to mitigate climate change and keep

temperatures below 1.5 degrees and how can we meet the

Paris the climate targets and how can we work in

alignment with the global sustainability development goals?

So there's a lot of metrics already out there,

but I think we need more people who understand the data and who can also

articulate the data to people who don't naturally understand data

or who can visualize the data in more user friendly ways.

Yeah, but, and again, look, I've said it a few times.

I think we need more politicians who who understand climate change

and who can implement legislation because ultimately we need when we

really need leaders who support business

and individuals in that space.

Thanks, Christina.

I just noticed that the time and we would finish at six

30, so Kristine Aquino,

or do you think we should finish up now?

So thank you. Thank you,

Kate for facilitating that panel and thank

you to our panelists Branden, Kamala, Christina,

and Sian for your time.

And thanks to those who who've sat in and viewed.

And it was really a wonderful panel highlighting how

the different environmental, economic,

and social dimensions of sustainability intersect

and really speak to the approach that's

embedded in this degree.

So if you do want to find out more information

here's a page you can look up particularly

about what it's like to study

at the university of technology Sydney and with the faculty of arts and social

sciences, which is where this degree is housed.

Thank you everyone.

Thank you.

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Hi everyone.

And welcome to today's panel on criminology and forensics.

This is hosted by the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences.

Before I begin today,

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So I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation upon whose

ancestral lands our city campus now stands.

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traditional custodians of knowledge for this land.

And as people of great ingenuity and innovation,

before we get into the seminar today,

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All right, so we're going to get in very quickly,

but I'd just like to briefly introduce you to the speakers that we will be

having today. So

my name is Dr. Scott Chadwick and I am the director of undergraduate programs

for the faculty of science.

And I am a forensic scientist by trade and I'll be moderating

today's session.

But we will be hearing from some amazing academics

and researchers in the area of both forensic science and criminology.

And they are professor Prof. Claude Roux,

Dr. Alan Beckley and Dr. Marie Morelato

and in order to get let's get straight into it.

And we're going to start off with Professor Claude Roux.

Now Professor Claude Roux is the director of the

UTS center for forensic science and he has been pivotal in the development of

forensic science in Australia. And over the past 25 years,

he has worked in developing and leading Australia's first undergraduate and

PhD programs in forensic science.

His research activities cover a broad spectrum of forensic science,

including forensic intelligence and the contribution of forensic science to

policing and security. So thank you Claude,

and I'll let you get started.

Thank you Scott, and welcome everyone.

And I'm very pleased to give,

be a bit of information about forensic science and

criminology.

It's interesting to know that criminology and forensic sounds share the

same object of study and by that we mean crime and deviant behavior,

the interesting thing is when we consider behavior and

activities you know, by doing that,

we leave traces. I'm sure, nowadays,

especially during a lockdown period, we leave a lot of digital traces, you know,

of our identity and our activities through our computer or

digital devices, but in, in, you know, normal physical life,

we also leave traces of all sorts of,

of nature and forensic science will focus on,

on these traces.

These objective traces and forensic science will try to

examine this traces and infer a lot of information from that these

traces and in priority using the enabling disciplines

of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. Criminology willl

focus on the social science approach, including using laws, psychology,

sociology, design, et cetera. Now,

the interesting thing you can see it's two different perspective of the same

problem.

The nexus between these two disciplines is growing because

when we are the nexus,

we can analyze the significant social problem

and complex problem in a holistic manner.

Now historically it's very interesting because more than 100 years ago,

forensic science and criminology were almost parts of the same discipline.

Both of them were largely derived from medicine and in social sciences,

some people even said that they are born twins. Now,

if we look at the forefathers of forensic science people like Hans Gross,

Magistrates in the inquisitorial system very interested in crime

scenes. Edmond Locard, very famous for Locard's exchange principal,

who opened the first forensic science laboratory in Léon in France

in 1910.

Or Reiss who developed the first academic school

and program of forensic science at the university of Lausanne in 1909.

They all shared a very common feature.

They are all very interested or they were all very interested in

understanding criminality.

And it's interesting to tell this anecdote about Reiss and Locard visiting

each other in Léon and you know,

they would go in the underworld precinct in Léon to observe what's going

on you know, in this sort of underworld.

Then later, almost the same time, shortly later in the US,

you have someone like Vollmer, At the Berkeley university.

He was a police administrator first, a criminologist,

and he developed this concept of scientific policeman. So you see,

you've got this sort of fun, you know, amalgamation of these two fields,

which are seen slightly different for most people,

but actually there is a large criminality.

Forensic science and criminology gradually moved away from each other

during the 1900,

mainly because of technological development in forensic science. Now,

the interesting thing is they reconverge over the last decade or so,

especially through the development of forensic intelligence and,

and Dr. Morelato will tell more about that.

Now let's go back to these famous traces.

These traces are really interesting and

Marie will talk a bit more about that as well.

But traces are collected because they are supposed to be connected with

entities of interest,

and because they have a potential utility in explaining the activity they

originated from. Now, interestingly,

each discipline interested in these sort of activities,

meets forensic science at this point because law because this

activity may mean an offense criminology,

because the deciphered mechanisms can inform disorders, deviant behavior,

or more broadly on crime and develop some strategies are to prevent or disrupt

this sort of a crime or deviant behavior. So, you know,

I hope I generated some interest showing you that actually it's

two different perspective of the same problem. And really,

I agree with the people who said that forensic science and criminology are born

twins. Now,

the interesting thing with with a double degree such as the one we are

talking today is that it enables you know,

future-proofing for jobs because people with

both skillset of forensic science and criminology are very well equipped

to actually you know,

be ready for jobs that do not exist yet,

or even maybe you know,

even themselves developed or propose the new jobs of the

future. So in the next slide, please,

so in the next slide just to show you how in forensic science,

we are interested in these traces that have been left by

activity and presence,

and that provides a lot of information about

you know, the modus operandi of what could have happened.

A lot of information about special temporary information,

and it's possible to compare cases

and compare traces and hence get some kind of profiling,

but from the forensic science angle. Now,

if you go on the right-hand side of the slide,

you see a more common profiling for people who are interested in,

in more social sciences. But actually both together can be very,

very powerful. And it's what I was trying to add to tell you you know,

during this few minutes to thank you very much.

Great. Excellent. Thank you so much. Yeah, I think,

I think it's very interesting that we may think that science and criminology

don't necessarily overlap.

But we can see that from the very beginning that these two areas have always

been from the same, from the same discipline. So thank you Claude.

I'd now like to introduce our next speaker Dr. Alan Beckley.

So Dr. Alan Beckley was a police officer,

but over 30 years in the United Kingdom,

working in various roles from the ranks of constable to superintendent,

and he first worked at the New South Wales Police Academy in Goulburn,

teaching police recruits,

and then moved to the Australian Graduate School of Policing in Manly and

worked as a senior lecturer at Charles Sturt University.

He's currently a curriculum advisor at the University of Technology Sydney in

the International Studies and Education sector within the faculty of arts and

social sciences. So thank you, Alan.

Well, thanks very much. Scott. That was a very good introduction to me from what

Claude was talking about.

But I'm going to talk about criminology from a policing

perspective.

It's a very exciting time for criminology because of the changes and challenges

and the crises in criminology at the present time. And I'll,

I'll talk a bit about that as, as I go through.

But it's interesting that Claude mentioned the history

of criminology and and forensic science because they sort of

interact really with policing policing

started probably about 150 years ago.

Most democratic countries

started to appoint police forces around that time in

the mid to mid sort of 19th century.

But then the history of policing sort of lapses for about

150 years, nothing happens in policing or very little.

And then we moved very swiftly on to the

20th century and 21st century.

So roundabout the 1990s,

we start thinking,

well crime is overtaking us in terms of its

number and its complexity and its violence.

So the police need to do something about it.

And they decided to introduce Watson.

What's now being called intelligence, led policing.

They suddenly realized something that they knew.

Every experience police officer knew that about 60%

of all crime is committed by 6% of the

population. In other words,

if you are able to concentrate on that 6% of the population,

you certainly be solving quite a lot of the crime. So that's what intelligence

led policing started to introduce,

and it happened in the UK in Kent.

And about 1919, It's spread sort of all around the world.

And it's basically analysis driven and it's

intelligence based. And you'll hear more about intelligence as, as,

as the seminar progresses and

it's all around the police being proactive and trying to solve crimes

by the use of intelligence and forensic

science which was started to introduce by

they were the experts in crime, but they didn't know everything about crime. And they also needed to work with other organizations to actually solve crime and reduce it to an acceptable level in society. There was a bit of a love, hate relationship between the police and academics and researchers at that time, which, which nowadays is sort of almost reduced to nothing because police work with researchers and universities all the time now.

[inaudible]. And I'll talk a little bit more about it in a moment. But the police suddenly realize that they couldn't do everything that, you know, that

And that led on to a thing called evidence-based policing,

which really means looking at policing techniques and only

using techniques that are tried and tested. In other words,

they're properly evaluated and assessed. And if they work,

then they're promulgated around the world and also used

by many different police forces. So they're proactive,

they're tailored and focused and place orientation.

So that is another term that you'll hear during the study of

criminology is evidence-based policing.

And also I'd like to talk about the impacts of technology on

policing. If you can cast your minds back,

maybe you can't before mobile phones came into

being most of you probably weren't won't remember that,

but if you look at the slide,

you'll see a police box and you might recognize it,

which is on a favorite

programme called Dr. Who

But we actually use these in the back in the 1970s,

these police boxes because the only way to contact patrolling police

officers was by stopping at a static mode

as a static phone, a landline phone,

and then talking to the police station,

because there weren't any personal radios.

There weren't any mobile phones,

and there was no other way of contacting a police officer,

and they were walking around a beat which is a sort of

designated area for for an individual police officer. And they will be,

they would make meetings with various people

supervisors, or they will go into these police boxes to talk about that.

And then of course,

personal radios came on being follow following on

from radios in police

vehicles and then mobile telephony. And now,

obviously everyone is aware of mobile phones nowadays,

and every police officer will have one plus probably a radio as well,

or a combined device with mobile telephony

and moving on from that the police officers using

body-worn cameras to record incidents that

they attend. And and that,

that can be used in evidence as well.

So and it could also be linked with facial recognition

technology more of which we'll talk about on, on,

on the actual course itself because it does

reveal certain issues, problems, and privacy issues as well.

And also technology has revealed new

crimes such as cyber crime, scams, ransomware,

all of these types of things that you hear every day of the week,

but they exist 50 years ago, even.

So so that's a very brief history of placing.

And as you can see,

there are a tremendous number of changes and that police

officers need the new skills to operate effectively in the current

environment. And the third thing I'd like to talk about is some

forensic science Claude mentioned some of the things,

but fingerprinting for example,

it was first used in 1850 in France and

subsequently now, as we know,

almost everyone is fingerprinted. If you go out through, in an airport,

you have your fingerprints taken and there'll be checked against the database.

But they're the first original fingerprints were slightly messy

because they had to be taken on ink pads. And but now we've got

much better equipment to,

to take them digitally.

So you might hear more about that from Scott, perhaps.

And then the other thing that I wanted to talk about is DNA DNA

technology interviews in 1984 in the UK.

And now as you'll see on depicted on crime

scene television programs. And it's,

it looks as though it's the answer to everything,

but it's not quite the answer to everything.

It can be very useful to establish a crime scene traces

and it can be useful because it is accepted in

evidence. So but there are problems with that,

and there are also privacy issues in relation to building up vast

databases of DNA traces and

also familial matches and racial

identification through DNA. So there are problems,

there are issues, which we'll also we'll be talking about during the course.

I'm sure. So I think that's about it from me,

but I hope you,

you will sign up for the course and I'm sure it will be very

interesting. Thank you very much.

Great, thank you. Alan, just like Dr. Who,

you took us through a journey through time and space, you know,

in a very short matter of time. So that was, that was excellent.

Thank you so much. I'm now liking to introduce our final speaker,

and that's Dr. Marie Morelato. So Dr.

Morelato is a senior lecturer at the University of Technology Sydney.

She completed her Bachelor's and Master's degree in forensic science at the

University of Lausanne in Switzerland.

Her research focuses on the triangulation of data that look at the

illicit drug problem through many different angles,

including crypto market drug discussion forums, illicit drug seizures,

wastewater analysis,

data from government sources and chemical analysis of used syringes.

So thank you Marie, you good to go.

Thanks, Scott. Hi everyone. So,

thanks Scott for the introduction. In the next couple of minutes,

I'm going to show you how forensic science has evolved from a purely reactive

and court focus role to a more proactive role.

So forensic science as many position itself as a service provider

to the criminal justice system. And in this role the,

the focus is past events and the aim is to solve particular cases.

This role is mainly reactive hybrid over the years.

The role of forensic science has expended and that's what Claude was mentioning

in his, in his talk.

And we argued that forensic science has a role to play in the security space.

And in this space,

we're not trying to regroup events coming from the same problem,

recurrent problem.

We're not trying to focus on each case separately,

but we are trying to find to regroup like

events coming from the same problem to find a general solution.

So instead of looking at each case separately,

or we adopt a case approach and try to find regularities and similar like

repetitions. So in this framework,

the aim is then to disrupt or prevent a crime from occurring

and maybe reduce the fear of crime.

So there is just a sense of proactivity.

So one of the political strategy that was mentioned by Alan in his talk

was intelligence led policing which is a way to use,

analyze and organize information,

to detect and better understand crime problems and use resources in a

more proactive way. So as the trace,

which is the remnant of criminal activity is one of the most

basic unreliable element that stems from a criminal ordered an activity.

It can actually be treated and analyzed systematically in combination with other

information to detect patterns in the criminal activity.

So this intelligence product can then use to make

recommendation to a decision maker that can then act on the

problem.

So either for disruption or prevention so that this is what we

actually called forensic intelligence. So

I'm just going to give you an example of some of the research that we've done in

the area of illicit drugs that will hopefully explain some of the concepts that

I just covered. So if you could put the next slide, please.

So if we look at the drug problem often what we observe is that it's the silo

approach.

So each organization will look at this problem from a different perspective.

So for instance, if we look at the law enforcement agency we,

we like the do enforcement just might make seizures of illicit drugs.

The seizures can be analyzed and we can upturn opting the

purity and the type of drugs that he's present in the seizures.

So from an enforcement perspective,

maybe the aim would be to persecute someone who is in possession of this

drug. Then from a laboratory perspective,

maybe destruct specimen could be analyzed. It could be chemically modified.

So chemical,

chemical profiling means that we are looking at the impurities that are present

in the drug to see if they come from the same origin.

So if you have two seizures of drugs and you look at their impurities profile,

you could potentially infer that these two drug seizures come from the same

source for, they might be a link between these two cases.

So from a laboratory perspective, they might look at the case to case links.

Then we've got health organization where we allocate more from the drug users

perspective, where do surveys of drugs,

what kind of drugs these people use,

and the results could be used more in a harmonization minimization approach.

Then that's obviously not all the type of organization that are involved in

analyzing the drug problem, but it's just a few examples,

but the last one would maybe come more from digital transformation that we

observed. So obviously in the legal economy,

you could see that is a transfer digital transformation,

where one more people use online sources to obtain goods,

like what are disclosed or anything even like food, et cetera.

So in the illegal weld and illicit drugs, for instance,

similar things are cured.

So obviously criminals will use platforms that are online in order to

promote and then potentially sell their drugs.

But if we from maybe an academic point of view, we would analyze this data.

So for instance, anything that is on the dark web,

on crypto markets we could potentially have an understanding of what is

actually sold on these platforms.

Similar to social media and forums.

We could analyze this data as well to obtain an understanding of what is

actually discussed by consumers,

if there is any substance that could be of interest and could problematic in the

future. So in a preventive perspective,

so this from a law enforcement perspective could be used to disrupt this

network, or this market is online markets.

So obviously all of this data source are there.

But in the current approach, they are actually used

not really combined with one another. So in the research that we've conducted,

we try to actually combine these different source of information to obtain a

better understanding of the drug problem.

So here I mentioned illicit drug seizures.

So we could chemically analyze them to obtain understanding if there is any

links of illicit drugs.

We could use online data, as I mentioned, the crypto markets, for instance,

to have an understanding of the online markets.

We could use surveys to have an understanding of the users.

What kind of drugs ADI mainly using. So what kind of drugs should we focus on?

Then you syringes content.

We could potentially analyze the drug content of your syringes to see what is

actually consumed by the cost, the consumer.

And then wastewater analysis is another data source that we could potentially

use to have an understanding of what kind of drugs are consumed in our,

in our specific population.

So you might've heard of wastewater and all of this because we hear a lot about

it in the current times with COVID. So there's,

it's been used a lot to to, to see what can Aflac,

if there is a region of interest and we can do the same with it is a drugs.

So if we combine all these data sources,

we actually have a better understanding of the drug problem,

and we can actually use a proactive approach rather than reactive approach.

So that's about it for me. Thank you.

Great. Thank you so much, Marie.

I think it's really interesting that Marie talks a lot about

broadening and looking at things at a different perspective.

And I think that that's what a degree in criminology and forensic science,

it will allow graduates and opportunity to look at things from not just from a

single perspective, but a more holistic perspective.

So we're not going to open up the the panel to

have a question and answer session,

so I can see that there are some already some questions in the question in it.

So if you do have any questions either about the courses or about

anything that was discussed in the panel session today,

please do feel free to put

those questions in the chat box.

We are going to go through some of the questions now,

and I might actually ask you to speak as could please put the videos

back on so that we can have the opportunity to,

to see and I'll direct some questions to the panelists as we go

through. So the first question is actually Alan.

So the question is, is there,

this customer would like to know if they could become a police officer with this

particular degree.

Right?

Well actually the the short answer to that is

not with this particular group criminology

degree

because the the degree in

policing is, is a more specific one,

but where did the criminology degree there are

very,

there are several roles in the police force that you can

apply for, for example, crime scene investigator

the, the the type of information that we've been talking about,

or a crime analyst,

they're not actually sworn police officers,

but they do have a specific role in the police service or the police force.

So those are just two examples,

but there are a number of other roles which people with a criminology

degree could be employed by a police force.

Great, excellent. And from the forensic science perspective, it's a,

it's a similar answer in that it can provide you with the

general background, but the requirement for policing is something that they do

separate to a university course. All right.

So the next question is what are the courses that are available in

criminology and forensic science? So I might answer this one.

So there is the bachelor of criminology and within the bachelor criminology,

you can have the option of a few majors.

So that's the major in digital security or analytics and research

that you can also do a double degree with the bachelor of

criminology and a bachelor of forensic science.

And this is actually one of it's an incredibly unique course.

It is only offered at UTS and it really leverages off

the excellent criminology program that we have on offer,

as well as the foundations of forensic science in building over

25 years. And we were the first forensic science course in Australia,

and it's a really good combination of options there.

You can also do the bachelor of criminology and international studies,

which would allow students to have a year or a semester

overseas. If anybody is interested in a forensic science course,

we do offer just the regular bachelor of forensic science.

But there are all majors in that course, which are chemistry,

biology digital forensic science and crime scene

investigation.

You can also that with international studies or so a

bachelor of laws.

So all of the course information and cost structure is available on

our website. And you can always check and see what the courses are there.

Hey, we've got a few questions here.

Can you do an internship as part of this program?

So Alan, do you mind answering this question?

Yes, it's good question. But there,

there are specific issues and problems in relation to people doing

internships with in a police organization.

You can imagine that there's a lot of very sensitive information

that the police gain as a result of interactions with

individuals in the community.

And so the answer to this, the short answer to the question is, no,

I don't do internships.

But you know, there are sort of, there are some

opportunities to work with the police and look at how they

how they operate, but they have, they're very carefully

screened and very carefully chosen.

So it wouldn't be like a normal internship that you would envisage,

like a term of where you get a a sort of a job,

a job in an organization and work on it for however long,

the internship for is, you know, so a year or whatever,

it's not like that you can't do that with policing because it's

dealing with so many particular problems and,

and risks and danger as we know.

So the answer short answer is no, I'm afraid.

Just to, to add from a forensic science perspective as well.

So internships are a really big part of the

university's mission. And as Alan has pointed out,

it's a little bit more challenging when we are dealing with policing careers

and that those opportunities may not be as plentiful as they are in other

areas.

However there are always opportunities to

engage with academics and do internships on campus without our

researchers in particular areas.

So while you may not be doing an internship in the police force, you will,

you will still have an opportunity to do an internship in the area of study,

whether that's been criminology or forensic science.

So we do understand that that isn't that incredible part of a student's

experience. And we do want to make that happen.

It's just a little bit more challenging for the criminology forensic science

area.

I might ask a question about the careers that can come from this particular

degree. So Claude,

do you mind giving us some ideas or some examples of potential

careers that the forensic science could bring and then out for Alan for the

criminology side?

Thanks Scott. Look forensic science,

as I mentioned you know, they, they,

they asked some functions within police forces

which requires highly technical and scientific skills.

So typically crime scene is, is one of them. So we've got a very long,

long history of placing graduates,

forensic science graduates with police forces around Australia and even overseas

through different pathways. It's,

there is not one single answer in terms of which way you go about it,

because it depends on the jurisdiction and on the country.

Some jurisdictions have people in crime scene, you know,

full civilians and can go straight after your degree, like,

like this one or straight forensic science degree.

In some jurisdiction you have to to do a fast track

police academy type of training. After the degree,

then you have the, all the,

the jobs that are in I would say traditional forensic science laboratories

or the laboratories where they do things like DNA analysis and drugs and

toxicology,

and quite often the some kind of government

laboratories, or it can be within a police force,

but they are full scientists like Victoria, for example, their,

their forensic science laboratory is within the police.

The same thing for ASB new south Wales police it's different.

There is not a laboratory under the new Southwest government doing these sort of

analysis. Then you've got all the different types of analytical operatories,

whether we talk about regulatory laboratories, you know, racing,

doping and Swan which are, you know, employ a lot of our graduates.

And you've got a lot of private businesses especially

especially in a consultancy firms.

And I'm a say now with a kind of big digital transformation we are going

for you know, digital forensic science is going to be a big one.

I just kind of the new DNA. And there are a lot of big,

big firms consultancy or financial companies,

financial firms who are doing a lot of internal investigation or,

or private types of investigation.

And they use a lot of our graduates and potentially future graduate of,

of that double degree. One thing I'd like just to add very briefly,

and I just mentioned that before, but in passing

society's changing very quickly, so we have to be very agile.

And so our graduates have to be very agile and,

and with a degree and especially double degree that is on offer for

here. It's a, it's a great way really,

to be prepared, as I mentioned for jobs that do not exist yet,

but are just around the corner.

And it's the kind of experience we've seen overseas, where they,

in places where the head of, you know, very similar type of have double degrees.

And all of a sudden there is, you know,

a new crowd of people developing a new time, new types of jobs,

and they are just there at the right time at the right place.

Great. Thank you. Cool. Alan,

do you mind answering some career questions or the criminology side.

Right? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Scott. Well,

I sort of touched on this before in the, in answer to the previous question,

as I say, the criminology degree,

the bachelor of criminology work actually get you directly

into a police force as a police officer,

because you'll have to do some more work and some more study.

The reason for that is police officers need to know detail

around criminal law.

They need to know what powers police officers have powers of

arrest, search, seizure very detailed information.

And so therefore you know,

you couldn't be accepted straight into the police force

without that extra study.

So what can you do in the police force?

Well we mentioned, I think Marie mentioned,

and I mentioned intelligence led policing and the police,

the police forces are always looking for very bright people to help them

on that intelligence side of policing.

So we're looking for people who are intelligence analysts,

crime analysts, we're looking for as,

as Claude was mentioning crime scene investigators,

but we're also looking at general management of policing.

So for example, in new south Wales police force,

there are about 16,000 sworn police officers.

So those are police officers and detectives working on in, in,

in various different local area commands around new south Wales.

But also they're backed up by a lot of support

personnel, probably about five to 6,000 support personnel.

And those are, are people who are working in offices,

let's say all around the state and they're supporting the

police officers in management or supply roles,

or they're helping them to do the licensing function.

So for example firearms licensing

and all sorts of different licensing that is administered by the new south Wales

police force, but not,

that's not done by directly by sworn police officers.

And they are if you like civilian support

workers. So there's, there's lots of it. There's lots of opportunities.

And as I say the,

the changes that I've taught I've mentioned in my eight minutes

when the police police forces are looking for very bright people throughout

their organization, not just sworn police officers.

Great. Excellent. I might,

there are some questions still in the, in the chat I'm on,

we might finish on one question and then if your question was not answered in

today's session,

we will do our best to follow up with you to answer that question.

Or if you do have any questions after the session today,

you can always send an email to fast.international@uts.edu.au.

So the question is around what kind of student

assignments would there be I can just sort of

speak to the general philosophy at UTS is that

the, the,

the types of assessments that we have for our students are all about

allowing students to demonstrate their skills, their knowledge,

their understanding in a whole range of different areas.

We understand that maybe traditionally exams and essays have been

how people have had assessments in the past.

But we understand that when you move out into the real world,

that's not necessarily how you are going to be judged on

your performance. So definitely from the sort of science side,

we're very much focused on practical skills and practical hands-on learning.

So some examples of assignments from that side of the,

the degree would be things around practical experiences, like, you know,

crime scene courses you'll have the opportunity to,

to analyze a mock crime scene like you would, if you were in you know,

an actual crime scene investigator.

We have things like scientific reports or scientific presentations where you

might have to talk to some experiments that you've performed and explain

what you've done and the results that you've found. From the criminology side,

it might be more around policy documents you know,

performing some level of research or literature for the

particular problem that is trying to be addressed as part of the

particular subject or area that you're studying. And oral presentations,

our group work team based assessments are

also very poor to the different types of assessments that students have.

So we do acknowledge that exam may have been a part of your life prior to

coming to UTS and,

and it will certainly be but it's about giving you a more

holistic assessment of your understanding in a course and in a

particular area. So you will experience a whole range of different

coming to UTS. So I'm gonna re at the, at the end of today's session.

So I would just like to thank our three speakers Prof. Claude Roux,

Dr. Alan Beckley and Dr. Marie Morelato. If you do have any other questions,

as I said, you can email fass.international@uts.edu.edu,

there is also a fast, specific

page that you can visit. If we just want to pop over to the next slide,

we can find out what life is like in the fast lane, or just briefly there,

that's a quick rundown of the different course and the structure

there. So that's again,

we'll make these slides available to, so you can see

all of the information that was presented in today's session and you can always

visit our website to find out more specific information.

So I thank you all for coming and hope to see you at UTS very soon.

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Speaker 1:        It's just gone 17 minutes past, I think. So I will make a start at firstly, like to just acknowledge country UTS. The main campus on Broadway is on, uh, Gadigal country, uh, the Gadigal people of the Eora nation. And I would like to pay my respects to the Gadigal people, to their elders past present and emerging. And I'd like [00:00:30] you also to think about where you might be coming into this, uh, remote session from I'm also on Gadigal land right now. So you might like to just think about where you are, what particular, uh, uh, indigenous land you're on my name's Andrew Hurley. I'm the deputy head of school here in the school of international studies and education at, uh, FAC the faculty of arts and social sciences at UTS. I have a background in international studies and in, [00:01:00] uh, in the law before I commenced my career as an academic, uh, I worked as a solicitor and I worked in an area of criminal law.

Speaker 1:        But if I say to you all, now, what's the first crime that comes into your mind when I say crime or criminology, like, just do that for a moment. What was the first thing that came into mind? Maybe cyber security, cyber crime, maybe, [00:01:30] uh, some, uh, some things like, uh, assault or, uh, perhaps, uh, you know, culpable driving in, in a motor accident, but probably not the area of criminal law that I worked in, which was occupational health and safety and also environmental law. So, uh, prosecutions, uh, in a, in a specific area of criminal law and procedure for, um, unsafe workplaces, but also for [00:02:00] things like spills, uh, emissions of, of things in, um, in the environmental sector. That's enough about me though. I'd like to also allow my colleagues who were here today, presenting with me about the bachelor of criminology, this brand new degree to introduce themselves. So over to you Allana,

Speaker 2:        Hi everyone. Uh, I'm Alana Piper. I'm also coming to you from Gadigal land, just two blocks from the university campus, as a matter of fact. Uh, so my background [00:02:30] is I'm a, uh, criminal justice historian at the faculty of arts and social sciences. And I'm really interested in analyzing long-term trends in criminal offending and how we as a society respond to it. And I will hand over to Joanna,

Speaker 3:        Thank you a lot on hi everyone. My name is Joanna Y and I'm a senior lecturer in the school of mathematical and physical sciences in the faculty of science. I have a background in statistics and my is in the analysis [00:03:00] of crime data and evaluation of policy programs and rebuilds in a criminal justice system.

Speaker 1:        Thanks Elena. And thanks Joanna. So you're all here today and you've probably got a number of questions. I'm going to pose a couple for you now, which applied degree sets you up for a job in an expanding sector. I've mentioned already cyber security, but perhaps you're thinking about transnational aspects of crime today as [00:03:30] well, which degree offers you great specializations and combinations to stand out in the marketplace? Well, it's probably no surprise if I say to you, the criminology degrees, these brand new criminology degrees, which we're launching here at UTS and which we're talking about today. So what are they, they're social sciences degrees, uh, with a critical scholarly focus on crime law and society. And we've [00:04:00] put these together not only with industry support and a great deal of consultation with the different industries, which you might end up working in, but also with a collaboration from colleagues in the faculty of science, the faculty of engineering and it, and also law.

Speaker 1:        So let's hear a little bit more about these degrees. First of all, I wanted to talk to you a bit about the standard majors. [00:04:30] So as I said, the bachelor of criminology, uh, has, uh, a number of, uh, different options. And there are three standard majors and everybody who does a criminology degree at UTS will do nine core subjects. And we'll talk a little bit more about them later, and then you do some majors, some specific subjects and some elective subjects. If you're in one of these three standard majors, so [00:05:00] forensics data and analytics and justice and legal studies, then you have about a semester's worth of elective subjects. You can do on top of that. I'll talk a little bit more about, uh, what those different subjects are in a moment. I'll show you a slide about those, but I'd like to just outline the different options for you in these different majors.

Speaker 1:        So forensics is really, if you're quite interested in crime scene investigation, maybe watch a bit of it on TV [00:05:30] and you're fascinated by, uh, uh, that aspect of things. Then forensics is probably the one for you. Uh, it's um, uh, involves quite a number of specific areas, uh, coming from our, uh, forensic science colleagues, um, data analytics on the other hand is more about, well data it's in the nine. So if you like data, if you like crunching data and numbers, um, and [00:06:00] the application, uh, of that in a, in a research or, or, or a policy area, then this could be the major for you. And you'll hear a little bit more about this side of things, uh, in a moment as well, uh, both from Allana, but also from, from Joanna, the justice and legal studies. Uh, uh, my major is probably the one closest to my heart with, uh, with the background that I have, uh, as a solicitor and that, uh, involves, um, really [00:06:30] a focus on criminal justice, criminal law, and procedure, and, uh, other things around that.

Speaker 1:        But, so if you're interested in, in, um, working in, uh, the criminal justice sector, uh, then that could be the major for you. So really these majors and the extended majors and the combined degrees, which we'll talk about in a moment, they all allow you to take a particular interest, uh, and the particular career path that you might [00:07:00] be interested in and to follow it by selecting a major, I'll just move on to the next slide, which is the first about extended majors. So what I didn't say is that the, each of, uh, our standard majors and, uh, our extended majors take three years of full-time study. So if you're doing an extended mighta, it doesn't add any extra time to your time at university it's three years. Um, [00:07:30] and, uh, with that, I'll, I'll just hand over to Alana to talk a little bit about this fun.

Speaker 2:        Yeah. So data analytics might not strike some of you as a particularly exciting area to major in, but actually I think it's really one of the most exciting majors to me, at least, um, because what you're going to be learning in that major is really how to detect patterns and trends in crime across time, um, and identify links and causes of the offending and learn how to [00:08:00] evaluate how interventions by the criminal justice system, by the community, um, affect and impact on rates of criminal offending and victimization. Now to, uh, undertake this major, we require that you have, uh, two units of English, as well as maths extension one. Um, because one of the key things that you'll be analyzing is not just qualitative data, but quantitative data numbers, statistics, um, to understand [00:08:30] crime rates, um, in terms of the sorts of subjects that you'll be doing in those major specific subjects.

Speaker 2:        It includes things like machine learning, applications, project, um, applications programming, and one of the other sort of great things about doing this majors is it means that you'll be doing actually two sort of industry placement projects. You'll do one within the core subjects that you studied, but you'll actually do an additional one also within the major [00:09:00] specific subjects, um, to do a sort of more extended project in, at the analytics and research space. Now, I think analytics and research they're highly transferable skills across any number of institutions that you might be interested in working in criminal justice would be looking for these skills as well as outside the criminal justice arena. If you went on to, um, decided you wanted to do different things in society at large, but, uh, if you're [00:09:30] what you're particularly interested in is perhaps working in criminal justice policy. So with, uh, community organizations or public policy organizations that are interested in conducting research and, uh, organizing initiatives to prevent crime or to rehabilitate offenders, um, I would say that this is the major, most appropriate view.

Speaker 1:        Thanks, Alanna. And I'd just say that if you do do the extended majors, this one or the [00:10:00] next one that I'm about to speak to you about in digital securities, you don't have as much elective choice. We were focusing down on a particular area, and that means that you don't have as much general elective choice. And, um, of the electives that, that you might do, if you do a standard major that could involve things like intercultural communication, learning, and language, um, there are particular, uh, internships opportunities to do things overseas. Um, [00:10:30] uh, and there are all sorts of things which if you do the standard major, there is a little bit more room. There's a semester's worth of room for that. If you choose one of these, uh, specialized what we call extended majors, uh, there is less time, um, in order to, to do that.

Speaker 1:        Uh, but of course you do have the extended major and that, that focus down, which is, is if you already know exactly what you want to go, exactly what you want to do in terms of, uh, Korea, uh, destination, [00:11:00] then one of those extended majors could really be for you. I said that too, and here's the next one? This is the, uh, bachelor of criminology to D in digital security. So you do an extra 72 credit points of, uh, of, um, subjects within this digital forensics major. What might that involve? Well, it's really focusing on, on aspects such as web systems, uh, cybersecurity, [00:11:30] um, digital and cyber crime, all sorts of things relating to that statistical design and analysis. There's a little bit of that in there too, but it's really, it does add that digital forensics major and, um, that will lead to, uh, as you might imagine, all sorts of jobs within cyber security, uh, in particular, again, there are, there is, uh, a, uh, an additional, [00:12:00] um, uh, requirement entry requirement. If you do want to do this digital security, um, uh, extended by nature, you'll need any two units of English and maths extension one, and you'll need inflammation, um, uh, processes in technology and software and design, design, and development, if you want to do it. So there is a little bit of an extra entry requirement there.

Speaker 1:        [00:12:30] We've had a question about, um, uh, this, this is great from an anonymous attendee, um, about the different sorts of combined degrees. There was a question in particular about doing, uh, a combined degree with a bachelor of forensic science and, um, that's one of them. The other one is the bachelor of international studies, and we do have some, uh, sub bachelor level combinations as well. Um, the bachelor of international studies, I might start with that. That's a five year [00:13:00] double degree, and that involves learning a language other than English editing involves going overseas. Uh, uh, if you want to, you don't have to, but it typically students would go overseas to a language or to a country where their language is spoken and, um, pursuing, uh, a, uh, a project in that setting overseas or doing, um, an exchange in that, in that country. And I'll [00:13:30] just give you an example of someone who did one of these, uh, um, uh, a bachelor of international studies with, and this person had a background in policing.

Speaker 1:        She went to France, uh, she went for six months in the bachelor of international studies. Part of the combined degree, you can go for up to a year, uh, but there is the possibility of going of going for six months. Um, this particular student, uh, was actually, she was a police officer. She was taking a little bit of time away from her, um, uh, from her work as a police officer [00:14:00] in order to do the bachelor of international studies. And she went to France for six months. She, uh, uh, came back speaking, fantastic French, um, and she pursued a major research project, which was, uh, which while she was there. And it was in, um, uh, involved interviewing, uh, uh, French police officers and, uh, drilling down on a specific attitude and approach to policing in the French context. And I met up [00:14:30] with her quite recently, and, uh, not only was that, that time, a life-changing experience going overseas for, for a long period of time, she's still in contact with the people whom she, uh, whom she interviewed.

Speaker 1:        And she came back, she went back into the police force and came back with a real passion for diversity, for diverse cultural situations, um, and was, was a real, uh, advocate and has been real advocate for, uh, you know, diversity [00:15:00] in approaches to policing, but also within the police force itself. So, I mean, that's, uh, a fantastic, uh, instance of the sort of, um, places that the combined degree with a bachelor in international studies can take you. And as I say, that's a five-year degree, uh, and involves learning a language. Um, if you wanted to do something in that line, but not over five years, then you can add a diploma in languages, which she gives you, uh, a language [00:15:30] as well. You do it on top of what you're doing. So it's like an over enrollment that's three years. And, uh, it, so it doesn't add any extra time to your bachelor of criminology.

Speaker 1:        It's just something that you add on top. The diploma in innovation comes from our colleagues in the transdisciplinary school and, uh, offers some of the sorts of subjects. If you've heard about our bachelor of, um, uh, uh, uh, creative intelligence and innovation, uh, it [00:16:00] adds some subjects from that. So it's a design thinking type of diploma, and that's something that you also don't need to add any extra time to your time at university. It doesn't overload you during semester, but it does have, uh, it fits in between semesters, if you like. So you'd be doing some work over winter and summer in that area. Uh, how many languages are available? I can answer that very quickly, six languages, and, uh, they are Chinese, uh, French, Italian, German, um, [00:16:30] Japanese and Spanish. And you can go to one of those countries, um, and there are all sorts of other exchange destinations as well.

Speaker 1:        Um, finally the, uh, bachelor of, uh, of, um, forensic science, which, which we've had the question about there, that is a four year degree. Um, so it's, uh, when it's in combination with a bachelor of criminology, it's a four year combined degree, and if you're really into your CSI, um, [00:17:00] and, and that side of things, then this is perhaps the one for you. Uh, it, uh, involves doing the core criminology subjects and it involves doing, um, the core forensic science subjects. And you also select a major within your bachelor of forensic science that could be in, um, uh, it could be in biology, it could be in chemistry. Um, it could be in forensic, digital forensics, [00:17:30] uh, could be in crime scene investigation as well. So, uh, that's something that you add. Uh, and then you also add, um, uh, 24 credit points. So one semester's worth of elective subjects in criminology as well.

Speaker 1:        So those different ones that I mentioned before, things like, um, you know, adding a language you can do, you can also add some, uh, in those elective subjects, you can do things relating to sustainability as well, uh, and [00:18:00] various different things. So there are all sorts of things that within that double degree, bachelor of forensic spectra, uh, criminology, you also get some of the, um, uh, some of the, uh, the electives, um, that come with the standard major in the criminology. Okay. So moving along, here's just an outline of, uh, the core subjects. So you can see them there, there are nine core subjects in criminology. I've just put out here [00:18:30] the different standard majors, justice, and legal studies, data analytics, and forensics, and you can see what's in those packages there. If you're doing the standard major already talked about a little of them, a little bit about that already, and about some of the different degrees, I'm sorry, some of the different careers that doing one of those standard majors will lead to.

Speaker 1:        I'm just going to move and show you what a study [00:19:00] plan might look like if you're doing the justice and legal studies major. So that's one of our standard majors is a three year full-time course. And you can see there we've plugged in what a study plan might look like for you, um, with a blend of, uh, of the, um, core subjects in criminology and the subjects in the, in the major happening interwoven across the three years. So you don't just do [00:19:30] criminology in the first year, uh, in the core, you also, we're also doing those major subjects right throughout the whole time, the different sorts of careers. We've talked about this as we've gone talking over the different majors, standard majors and extended majors in the combined degrees. And of course you can see a list of some of the different ones there. Um, I just had a couple of things, and I know my colleagues on the panel be interested to say things [00:20:00] in, in their presentations as well.

Speaker 1:        Um, what we've been hearing about as we've been speaking with, um, agencies and, and, uh, employers, uh, as we were building this degree was about, you know, the, the growth in, in particularly in that cyber security area. And the fact that not only are there firms, which specifically focus on prevention, uh, but they're also, you know, consultancy large consultancy [00:20:30] firms too, that have divisions, uh, relating to cybersecurity and to, um, to, to forensics. And, um, in many cases, what they're actually doing is putting together, investigating where there might've been a breach of the law. They're putting together a whole prosecution brief. So these are, this is a private sector, and then they're handing it to the police on a silver platter, uh, the prosecution brief, and the, um, the police had been able to take over [00:21:00] with the actual prosecution of, of the alleged offense.

Speaker 1:        So we're finding that there's a lot of that actually happening in, in, uh, the private sector. Um, I mentioned the fact that I worked in these, uh, uh, sort of niche areas of, of criminal law and criminal justice, occupational health and safety and environmental protection. And of course there are agencies that are relating to those as well in new south Wales. It's a safe work new south Wales, [00:21:30] uh, for occupational health and safety who prosecuted. And there's also the environment protection authority who also both of those, uh, agencies, uh, employ people to do policy work, um, to put together prosecution briefs and so forth, uh, and to investigate cases. So there are all sorts of opportunities there too. Um, I will hand over to, um, one of my colleagues now, and that's Joanna to talk about her work [00:22:00] as a crime statistics statistician, cause that'll give you a little bit of an idea of some of the opportunities if you follow that sort of path too. So Joanna, thank you, Andrew.

Speaker 3:        Um, so now talk about, so before joining UTS, I was working, um, at boxer. So boxer stands for the bureau of crime statistics and research, and it's a statistical and research agency that sits within the department of communities and justice. It has three main areas [00:22:30] of activities in research and evaluation. They undertake rigorous evaluations to determine the effectiveness of justice programs and policies, and in what link, formation and mapping, they monitor patterns and trends in crime and perform sophisticated modeling and analysis on crime and criminal justice issues. And lastly data systems, they develop and maintain high quality database on crime and criminal courts and custody.

Speaker 3:        Excellent. [00:23:00] Also has many very rich data sets. For example, the new south Wales criminal court start-up contain all the criminal court proceedings from 1994. And that includes 3.2 million local and children's court finalizations and 95,000 at Supreme and district court trials and sentenced cases, new south Wales police stop. And that contains 17 million criminal incidents, 4 million persons of interest [00:23:30] and 14 million victims. And lastly, boxers over re-offending database, that database is particularly useful in research because the information contained in your offending history is often a significant predictor for future offending. So Foxley is an agency would have the capacity to conduct research and can at the same time help the policymakers in the criminal justice system to develop and implement strategies that can reduce crime.

Speaker 3:        [00:24:00] Next slide. So now I'll give you some examples of the kind of question that we ask in crime and criminal justice system. So one such question is what is the impact of the lookout walls in January, 2014, new south Wales government announced new restrictions on the licensed premises in the King's cross and seeing the CBD areas, research question associated with this policy change include the lockout law, reduce the incidents of [00:24:30] non domestic and domestic violence assaults in Kings cross and CPD. Is there any evidence of displacement to me about areas? Another question might be to develop a risk assessment tool that can actually discriminate between repeat and now repeat intimate partner violence victims, not important question is to assess the effectiveness of alternative sentencing options to full-time imprisonment. Now, one such alternative is so [00:25:00] cold and intensive correction order where an offender's served the entire sentence in the community, and that includes supervision and monitoring by community corrections.

Speaker 3:        And we found that intensive correction order is indeed more effective in reducing the risk of re-offending when compared to a short prison sentence of less than two years. And this results suggests that the local and the district courts across new south Wales should expand the use of intensive correction orders. [00:25:30] And a last example is a recent study looking at the impact of the COVID 19 restrictions on the different categories of crime. And this restriction is not the current restriction we are, we are in, but the one that we had in much last year, so different categories of crime, and we look at include domestic and non domestic assault, sexual assault, robbery, theft, and fraud. Now you might be the case that deprived all opportunities to commit certain types of crime. For example, burglary [00:26:00] motor vehicle theft offenders might simply reduce their criminal activity or switch to other kinds of income generating crime, such as fraud at the same time, forcing families to spend long period of time together at home might result in increase in domestic violence, but closing licensed premises and therefore reducing alcohol consumption may have the opposite effect on domestic violence. And all of these hypothesis can be tested [00:26:30] when you have access to relevant data and the skill to conduct proper data or statistical analysis. And this is the work I do as a crime statistician. Thank you.

Speaker 1:        Thanks very much Joanna and moving quickly on to aligner as well. So we hear about her work as a crime historian.

Speaker 2:        Thank you. Uh, so as mentioned, I'm a crime historian I'm sort of working at the nexus of history and criminology, or [00:27:00] as I like to explain it, asking criminological questions of historical data. So I think this sort of goes to show the importance of data and working with data I'm just as Joanna works with data. I also work with data. You've got an example there, um, on the screen of, um, uh, prison record and, you know, converting that into usable data is something that I've been sort of heavily involved in in terms of creating sort of big historical [00:27:30] data sets that we can understand long-term trends in Australian crime and criminal justice responses across time. So, you know, one project that I was involved in the prosecution project, um, did a similar thing with sort of court records. And we were able to put together a data set of, you know, half a million criminal prosecutions across the 19th and into the very late 20th centuries to analyze, you know, what were the determining factors in the outcomes [00:28:00] of prosecutions for serious crimes in Australia across time?

Speaker 2:        Um, uh, perhaps you won't be surprised to hear that actually one of the most important, um, if not the most important factor in those criminal prosecutions was the presence or not of defense counsel, um, today and historically at a number of people go through the criminal justice system, actually undefended, um, and you know, that [00:28:30] is a huge risk in terms of, um, likelihood of stronger likelihood of conviction and a strong likelihood of a more lengthier prison sentence, another sort of new big data project that I'm involved in at the moment. The criminal characters project is similarly taking tens of thousands into hundreds of thousands now, um, of prison records to look at offender's life histories, uh, across [00:29:00] the longterm, and to identify from that patterns in offenders, backgrounds, and life events, that impact whether, uh, how they end up their pathways into the criminal justice system and criminal offending.

Speaker 2:        Um, but also the likelihood of whether they will keep offending or which we refer to as recidivism or desist from crime over time. And what sort of factors employment education, um, geographical mobility [00:29:30] moving from place to place impact upon those patterns of offending. So one of the reasons if we go to the next slide, um, that I think, you know, uh, a criminology degree at UTS really makes sense is that UTS has a very strong investment in, uh, data and understanding data across the university as a whole. And data is something that I think as you might see [00:30:00] the crossword to Gyra and my discussion, um, data is something that really sits at the core of what criminologists do and understanding the causes of crime and trends and patterns in crime and evaluating how effective the criminal justice system has been. So one of the great facilities that we have at UTS is the UTS data arena.

Speaker 2:        Unfortunately, if we were on campus today, we'd be able to show you in person. Um, but for now, we've just got these visuals on [00:30:30] screen, but basically it's a 360 degree data visualization facility. You can go in and visualize this sort of big data, writ large, um, and, um, to understand it better and see it play out in different ways and explore it quite creatively. Um, you can also use it to create immersive scenes and experiences. And this facility isn't just used by academic researchers like myself. Um, but also industry professionals [00:31:00] have made use of it, including the new south Wales police. So on the right of this slide here, we can actually see an image from one of those nooses, um, where LIDAR scanning of scenes has been used by the police to be able to then go back in, um, and create sort of simulations of spaces to understand things like lines of sight between two different points. Um, you know, would a certain [00:31:30] event witnessed from a certain point, you know, what would have been able to be seen from that point effectively? So, you know, in terms of why UTS, I think the data and the industry connections are two really big selling points there. And with that, I'll hand back to Andrew.

Speaker 1:        Excellent. That's terrific. Ilana. Thank you. Uh, one of the questions that's come through in the chat there, or in the questions and answer is about industry links, uh, [00:32:00] and getting experienced for jobs. So UTS is really about one of the features or UTS model of learning is, um, connection with industry. And, uh, here, you can see, um, a picture of Nick Caldas, who is an industry professor. Who's just been appointed to the faculty of arts and social sciences, and he, uh, has an amazing background history, um, with the new south Wales police force. He was a deputy commissioner of police, but more recently he's worked a lot with the United nations in different [00:32:30] areas and has very, very fantastic connections out into our consulting and industry as well. And that's an example of the sort of person who's who's associated with the program, um, and will, there'll be opportunities for guest lecturers coming in, but in particular, I wanted to draw everyone's attention to the industry project, which happens in the final year and that's a, a large subject and there's a panel involved with that.

Speaker 1:        So because of the sensitivities of, of some of the [00:33:00] industries that we are, uh, dealing with, um, in criminology, uh, going out and doing an internship, uh, compulsory internship, uh, is, is not it's, it's not, um, it's not something we can do. However, we do have industry come in form a panel place, real world questions to our students, and then the students are evaluated by that panel as well. So that's an indication of, of how, uh, industry is, is linked, uh, with [00:33:30] this program. Um, not only through people like does, but also in that way with that panel and the industry project. Uh, if you do a, um, a major which has room as an elective for, for an internship, you can go and self source something perhaps in an internship, um, in industry as well. So there are possibilities for that. Um, I might just move on to the question panel here and try [00:34:00] and deal with, and answer some of the questions that you've, uh, you've raised.

Speaker 1:        So I'm just looking over those. Um, I've talked about industry experienced by that industry panel and also in the, in the electives. Um, uh, if you do the standard major and you want to, and are able to do it, uh, an internship, the difference, there's a question, the difference between a fright forensic science degree and a criminology forensic science major. So yes, there's that all of the core, [00:34:30] uh, criminology subjects in the criminology degree. So that's, uh, all of those ones that were up on the screen before, um, you know, introduction to criminology, uh, crime, data analysis, um, uh, research methods in the social sciences. It's, it's the social science factor and the understanding a little of the, of the complexity, uh, of, um, crime society, the law from a social sciences perspective, [00:35:00] which you don't get in a forensic science degree itself, uh, do you have to do elective subjects?

Speaker 1:        So there's a different answer for that, depending on which major you select, if you do a standard major over three years, there is room for electives, and yes, you would need to, if you pick an extended major then, um, depending on which one you do, there's either no room for electives, or if there's any room for electives [00:35:30] it's within the specific area of that set of that extended major. So in those, the simple is no there aren't electives. Uh, and if you do the combined degree with the bachelor of forensic science, yes, there are electives. And I talked about some of those electives, uh, that are available, um, uh, both in that combined degree, but also in the standard major.

Speaker 1:        Are there advantages [00:36:00] to doing a double degree of criminology combined with a forensic science, bachelor, majoring in biology? Uh, well, I think I've explained a little bit about the, the advantages of doing the double degree, uh, with forensic science in that it does offer the social sciences perspectives on criminology within the criminology half of the double degree. Um, if you want to major in biology, if you've got that background [00:36:30] in biology, biology, then I would really recommend that you seriously consider doing the double major. I sorry, the double degree with a bachelor of forensic science, because you can major in biology. That's one of the areas you can write, you don't have to, but you can, uh, I hope that answers your question, Bianca. So, um, the social sciences and the sciences coming together in the combined degree, that one is, uh, uh, a question [00:37:00] now, uh, which degree would be better for career in forensic science, the bachelor of forensic science or the double degree.

Speaker 1:        So criminology and forensic science. Well, I would say if you're interested in forensic science, um, adjust in, in, uh, uh, from, uh, from that sort of more scientific point of view, then the single degree, but the double degree gives you the added social science, uh, approach, and would mark you out as being, um, [00:37:30] uh, distinguished from people who only have a forensic science single degree. So it's an extra year at university, but it does give you a distinction in, in the job market. And that's, uh, it gives you the, the, the different approach as well, but it also gives you that distinction in a job market. So that's something that you might like to consider the same goes for any of the double degrees. So I'm doing the bachelor of international studies and the, uh, the bachelor of criminology [00:38:00] would also distinguish you in the market.

Speaker 1:        And that's something you might like to consider as well. I gave that example of, of the student with a background, uh, with the police force and how it was incredibly useful for her, uh, for her work with the police doing the bachelor of arts in international studies. If I, I'm just wondering if, when you, if, whether you could do an exchange in the UK for criminology. So yes, if you do a [00:38:30] standard major in criminology, um, you do an exchange that's that's possible, uh, and there might be possibilities also in, in the combined degree with forensic science to, uh, the best way of getting overseas to a country where one of those six languages is spoken is, is doing the double degree, but there are opportunities, as I say, for, uh, doing an exchange within that, um, the double degree [00:39:00] with international studies or within, uh, the standard major bachelor of criminology, uh, what major would be most appropriate to working, uh, for the AFP more specifically in the field? Um, that's really hard to say because the IFP sort of has, um, you know, works over the very, uh, large jurisdiction as well. Um, I might ask my panel though, whether they might have any particular insights [00:39:30] into that. Um, uh, Joanna, is there anything you might say or Allana,

Speaker 2:        Like, I think, you know, as you sort of indicated, it would probably depend on the sort of role that you would want to have with the AFP. Like if you were interested in crime scene investigation, obviously, um, forensic science would appear appropriate if you're interested in cybersecurity and working on technical aspects, um, that, uh, that major would be, uh, appropriate. Um, I would say again, like the data [00:40:00] analytics, um, major would, uh, you know, fit you for certain roles within the AFP. Um, Joanna, did you have,

Speaker 3:        Depending on the role? Um, yeah.

Speaker 1:        Uh, okay. So to be answered on Zune, what's your favorite part of the, of, of the degree? Well, the degree is brand new, so that's pretty exciting for me that it's, it's, um, it's being launched. And, uh, uh, I guess [00:40:30] for me, the idea of that industry project is really exciting, uh, where the panel comes in and, uh, and you get that real life, real authentic, uh, questions, real-world questions coming, which you have to have to work towards. Um, so that to me is a really exciting part of the degree. Uh, also the combinations, you know, with forensic science and, and, um, with the international studies, which as I said at the start as my, my own background. So, um, I would like to get in [00:41:00] intelligence and investigation. Uh, what steps should I follow? Well, I think probably, probably some of the, some of the questions we've already answered, Mike might give an answer to that. Um, depends really what, what sort of areas you're interested in, I think, um, and whether you follow a particular, uh, one of those standard majors or, or extended majors, Allana is talking an answer to that. So [00:41:30] maybe she's able to continue.

Speaker 2:        I was just going to say the data analytics, um, if you're sort of not sure what you want to do, but you want to be prepared for, um, or to have it just sort of distinction from just the sort of standard criminology, the data analytics could be a good option there if you're not sort of immediately attracted to either the digital or the, um, crime scene investigation. Um, [00:42:00] because I think that the, those data analytics skills are going to set you apart, um, but also be highly relevant to the field work and different areas as well.

Speaker 1:        Thanks, Alanna, uh, Nicola question, if you didn't study chemistry and only standard maths, can you be offered placement in the course? So if you've got, um, two units of English, then you can, uh, you can study the standard major, uh, if [00:42:30] you do the standard criminology, uh, can you major in, uh, forensic science? Uh, yes, there is a forensics, um, uh, forensic major standard major within the standard within the bachelor of criminology. Yes. Uh, the next question, sorry, I'm racing through those a bit as we're about to run out of time, um, prerequisites for criminology, uh, and international studies combined degree. Uh, so there's no, um, the, [00:43:00] the, the prerequisites for the criminology degree, uh, other ones that we've mentioned, there are no prerequisites for the international studies part of the degree. Uh, for example, you don't need to, um, uh, you don't need to already have language skills.

Speaker 1:        You can start as a beginner, but you can also, if you speak French already, um, you've done it at school, then we can also accommodate that. So that's no problems. Um, can you just apply for criminology and enter the combined degree, [00:43:30] uh, if desired, yes, that should be possible via an internal cost transfer. So, no worries. Um, when do you apply for the bridging courses please? Um, uh, I'm not able to answer that question, Nicola. I suspect you might be asking about specific bridging courses and so forth. It might be easier if you go to the UTS, uh, um, uh, open day site and seek some specific, uh, advice, [00:44:00] uh, from admissions, um, uh, about your question that might be the easiest, um, next question to become a crime scene investigator that double degree of forensic science and criminology is best. Well, you can do crime scene investigation, um, within, uh, the, the standard degree.

Speaker 1:        That's no problems, uh, as a subject, uh, if you pick one of the standard majors, um, but I think if you've got a [00:44:30] real passion for it, I'd, I'd say go for the doubled grade that only adds an extra year, and it gives you that distinction in the market, and you've got the whole extra degree. Um, what sort of careers would the criminology forensic science degree be most useful for? Well, I think I've sort of answered that already. Um, yeah, you know, a crime scene investigator would, would, would be a classic one. Uh, but you know, there are also forensics, [00:45:00] um, uh, you know, con consultancies and so forth that I did. I spoke about when I talked about some of the, um, uh, consulting firms that have also had forensics departments. Um, if I dropped a side subject, but did it in year 11, is that okay?

Speaker 1:        Um, uh, Dahlia, I think it depends, uh, what, whether you're interested in doing one of the, uh, extended majors, um, or indeed the double [00:45:30] degree with forensic science, it might be easiest for you to ask, uh, you know, a specific question, um, of, of the chat in the open day. But what I would say is that, uh, you don't need to have done, um, uh, uh, science in order to do this, this, uh, standard majors of the criminology degrees. So the basic bachelor of criminology degree, but if you're asking about one of the combined [00:46:00] degrees or extended majors, I think, um, we can give you more specific answers. If you ask your, you know, ask you a question against the background of your own study history, we've gone over time. So I'm aware that probably people need to go off to other things. And I'd just like to say, thank you very much.

Speaker 1:        We've got through all of the questions, which is amazing where a little bit after 11, I'd like to say, thank you very much to everyone for participating to my panelists, Allana Joanna, Serena behind the scenes, [00:46:30] uh, to all of, all of the students, prospective students, parents, and others. Thank you very much for coming along. Good luck with the rest of your studies this year. And we very much hope to see next year or the year after, perhaps depending on what you're, you're doing this year here at UTS doing what about criminology degrees? So thank you very much and goodbye.

 

Speaker 1:        Okay. I think we can, um, begin now, uh, good morning, uh, everyone, uh, I'd first like to begin by acknowledging the Gadigal people of the sorry of the Eora nation upon whose ancestral lands. Um, our city campus at UTS now stands, and I would like to pay respects to the elders both, both past and present acknowledging them as the traditional custodians for this land. And I would further like to acknowledge [00:00:30] the traditional custodians called the various ancestral lands from which our other attendees join us today and to pay respects to those elders past and present. So welcome to today's session. Um, on the bachelor of international studies, it's a real honor for me to present this flagship degree at UTS. So it's a program, uh, that has been going for more than 25 years. And the bachelor of international studies is a unique offering, [00:01:00] um, in both Australia and also internationally.

Speaker 1:        So it's a globally regarded, uh, degree. Um, um, and this is because, um, it assists in developing students' intercultural skills, language proficiency, and can also equip students to become critical cosmopolitan citizens who can operate successfully in diverse professional contexts, um, and also internationally. Um, so my name is Nick, Dr. Nick McGinnis. I'm [00:01:30] a lecture, a senior lecturer in international studies, and I'm also the course coordinator of this degree. And I'd also like to introduce to you Holly Johnston. So Holly completed her bachelor of international studies just a little while ago. And she's also here to provide you, um, a little bit of feedback about her experience during this degree at UTS. Uh, Holly, would you like to quickly introduce yourself?

Speaker 2:        Hi everyone. I'm Holly. I graduated from a bachelor of communications [00:02:00] and international studies in November of last year. Um, and straight after my degree, I got a job working for the department of premier and cabinet, uh, for the new south Wales government. So I'm hoping to sort of give you guys a bit of an insight into certain career opportunities, as well as, um, all the great fun that you'll have doing an international studies degree.

Speaker 1:        Thanks so much, Holly. All right. So, uh, I suppose we kind of begin by, you know, the, you know, by pointing out [00:02:30] that most students that choose an international studies degree are very keen about having an international experience. Uh, so I suppose the question is, do you feel that you are missing out on travel in 2022 and, uh, um, a lot of Australians feel that way, uh, because of the pandemic. Um, and, but despite this, uh, international studies degrees like ours have been attracting, um, increasing amounts of students. So the idea I suppose, is that since many young, since many [00:03:00] young Australians have been missing out on travel, then why not integrate, um, an international study experience in your degree in order to be able to go and travel. Um, you know, when the, the global situation has calmed down a little bit. So I suppose this is one of the key reasons that, that students choose an international studies degree.

Speaker 1:        This it's much more than that also. So let's just have a look at some [00:03:30] of the key reasons, and then we can get Holly's opinion as well. So, first of all, UTS prides itself in having developed what we consider an enviable model, um, that has achieved an international reputation. Um, I, myself also studied, uh, international studies at UTS and more than 20 years later, I'm now, uh, the program coordinator. Um, but I wouldn't have been able to do it, uh, if it wasn't for the dedicated academic and professional staff at UTS that carefully scaffold [00:04:00] intercultural learning, um, and ensure that you are prepared for your international experience. Um, and the great thing about studying international studies studies at UTS is that it's a combined degree. So you can combine it with 29 different undergraduate degrees across UTS, including, um, with degrees, for example, from law, uh, business and communication. Uh, Holly, can you quickly say what you combined your international studies degree with? Yeah,

Speaker 2:        So I combined it with, [00:04:30] uh, communications, majoring in social and political sciences. It was a really good combination, but, um, everyone across the course did a range of different degrees, which I found was actually really nice to be able to meet people from different disciplines and it actually made sort of the assignments and the discussions in class a lot more interesting as well.

Speaker 1:        Cool, thank you, uh, pilot, um, and another, um, I suppose, uh, highlight of international studies at UTS is that it provides you flexible [00:05:00] ways of being able to integrate travel into your degree. So for example, there is the possibility of undertaking a full year overseas, uh, for those students who would like that. But for students who might prefer a shorter stay, uh, there's also the possibility of doing a six month, um, study abroad overseas, and for some students, um, even, um, just a few weeks. And if there are students, for example, that just wants to gain all of these intercultural skills are without leaving home. [00:05:30] Uh, there is also now the option of doing the whole degree based in Sydney. Uh, but most importantly, the bachelor of international studies is a flagship program for us, um, because students gain the much sought after, uh, project management skills, uh, that employers require as well as a soft skills such as resilience. Um, and this ensures that you're kind of competitive in the job market. Um, Holly, perhaps you'd like to talk a little bit about your project and the skills that you gained. [00:06:00] Yeah, so

Speaker 2:        I did the full year, um, overseas, I went to Granada in Spain and I had the opportunity to really explore my personal interests while I was there and complete a project. So I combine my two interests, which are like, um, social policy and welfare with environmental policy. And I was able to work with Nick while I was over there to develop a research project that looked into energy, poverty, um, which is related to people who don't have like sufficient, um, [00:06:30] energy wealth in order to sort of stay warm, stay comfortable and actually live a proper life in their homes. Um, so I conducted a major study over that, into that, into the national policy at the time, um, and how that related to my specific city and if it met the needs of the people.

Speaker 1:        Yeah, thanks so much, Holly. Uh, and these skills, uh, that I've mentioned, uh, students gain them almost immediately. So our research has shown that when our UTS students, uh, arrived back [00:07:00] at UTS after their international experience, um, that marks, um, a much higher than, um, other students in their professional degree. So you get, um, uh, marks boost, uh, upon your return. Um, and that also helps you stand out in the job market as well. So in an international studies degree at UTS, you can learn a language. And at UTS, we have the six, I suppose, most popular languages to study in Australia, and they are French, Japanese, Chinese, [00:07:30] Italian, um, Spanish and German. And as I, as I mentioned, that employers are always telling us, um, that intercultural skills, um, are considered by them as a central force for a global career. And at UTS, um, we carefully prepare students using what we call a pack model. So P for preparation aid for adaptation C for consolidation. So we prepare students for an international experience. Uh, you have academic [00:08:00] staff in order to help you adapt to your international experience. Um, and then you can consolidate your knowledge in, in capstone projects or through internships.

Speaker 1:        So I just want to talk a little bit about, um, how our degree is is structured. Um, so if you, uh, join a bachelor of international studies with us from 2022, you have three different options. [00:08:30] So you can, for example, choose the first option, which is language culture, and the professional world. Now this option is ideal for students who would prefer to do it all or most of their subjects here in Sydney. Um, it does include an intern, an internship at an international organization, um, and it does include the option of also doing a study abroad experience of between two and six weeks. Uh, for those students who are a little bit more adventurous, we have, uh, [00:09:00] the second option, which is which we call language, culture and global exchange. Now with this option, um, you will also do an internship in an international organization, but you also do a six month global exchange, um, any UTS partner university.

Speaker 1:        So we have, uh, options that are over 200 partner universities. Um, and I think at the moment is 42 countries and territories. And from 2022, um, were really excited to announce [00:09:30] that we have, um, an international honors in this degree. So this means, um, international honors students will do a full year, uh, a relevant overseas partner university that aligns with their language choice. So this means you can do your international honors in either Germany, France, Spain, Italy, uh, Japan, or China, and the students will also receive a handsome contribution from UTS to assist with their travel [00:10:00] experiences. Um, Holly, can you please talk about the option that you did and what your experience was like?

Speaker 2:        Yes, I did. What is now the honors, um, and did a one year in city of Granada in Spain. It was like, obviously just the best year. Um, it was really great opportunity to, so before going overseas, our UTS prepared you through, um, Spanish language classes. I had no prior experience, but I was able to do two years of Spanish language classes prior, move over and then really get to practice [00:10:30] the language, make vocals. Um, it was a challenging experience, but also super rewarding. Um, I think one of the best spots did you get a proper university experience by being an exchange student and you get to really be part of a university culture and meet other young people from all over the world at the same time as doing, um, like I got to choose some really interesting subjects over there, um, as well as completing my research. So you get a bit of fun and travel as well as, um, developing some really key skills that get you a job after.

Speaker 1:        [00:11:00] Thanks so much, Holly. And I just want to point out that the exciting thing about the honors program at UTS, uh, is that it's only embedded on us. So this means it does not require an additional year on top of your degree. So this means that, um, it takes the same amount of semesters as the other options as well. Um, but as it is, uh, an honors degree, uh, in order to enter into the honors degree, you will be required to have and maintain a credit average. [00:11:30] Um, and I suppose I should have pointed out that just in case, um, uh, there's another, I suppose, global pandemic or any other, uh, difficult situation in the future. Uh, all students will be, um, able to, uh, return to the first option, the stay at home option in case there's any disruption to international travel. I just want to now, um, explain to you a little bit about, uh, what it would look like for you.

Speaker 1:        Um, if you study international studies at UTS, [00:12:00] so I'm going to go through two different sample plans. So the one that you can see on your screen at the moment is for example, a student that chooses to do the six months global exchange. So sorry. Uh, and so, but what would it look like? So for example, in year one, uh, you will mostly be doing professional subjects. So this means, uh, the subjects of your professional degree. So remember you're always doing international studies, uh, with one of those other 29 degrees. Uh, but you will [00:12:30] also do a sub international studies subject called intercultural communication. In your second year, you begin to mix your international studies subjects a lot with your professional degree. So for student, you will do to language and culture subjects or your chosen language, and you will also study a subject called contemporary society, um, that links with the language that you're doing.

Speaker 1:        So you might do contemporary Spain or contemporary Italy, or contemporary, France, et cetera. [00:13:00] And in the third year, you will continue to learn your language, um, as well as your subjects in your professional degree. And in the fourth year, um, you would complete a subject called international research methods. Uh, you'll be able to go on global exchange to, uh, one of those 200 or so universities, um, use it doing elective subjects. And upon your return, you'll be able to do a, an internship at [00:13:30] an international organization in a subject called the global professional industry engagement project. Um, and then in your final year, uh, you will complete your professional degree. So it's a well-rounded five-year degree now, holiday to the second option, which I'm going to show you down. Um, and this is the embedded honors. And as you can see, it is quite similar.

Speaker 1:        So you still do mostly your professional degree subjects in your first year, plus the subjects, [00:14:00] intercultural communication, um, sorry. Uh, you do contemporary society in your language subjects in the second year, continue with your language and culture subjects in the third year. Uh, but in your fourth year, you spend your whole year overseas, just like holidays in the city of Granada in Spain, uh, where you complete a subject called international research methods. And you also complete, um, this is our in country study one and in country study chain where [00:14:30] you are studying in a different university, um, as well as completing, uh, an honors level research project under the supervision of a UTS academic, and then in your fifth year, uh, you are studying your professional subjects.

Speaker 1:        So a key question that many students always ask us is where can I go? So global exchange, uh, is, uh, it's a large program at UTS. Uh, we have many, many students that choose to [00:15:00] go on global exchange and we currently have more than 42 different countries and territories, including, uh, more than 200 universities that you can choose from, um, in all continents, in terms of the international honors here, you have six choices. So the students that choose this option can either go to China, to France, to Germany, to Japan, to Italy, or to Spain. So depending on what you choose, you will be studying that language. You [00:15:30] will spend a year at a university in that city, and you will also be working one-on-one with a relevant, specialized academic on that country. Um, just like Holly, for example, was, was working with me, um, on Spain because I'm a spending specialist. Uh, Holly, how did you find that one-on-one experience working with an academic staff member?

Speaker 2:        Um, obviously I'm talking to you, but I really, really, um, it was much better than I sort of anticipated. It would be, it [00:16:00] really gives you an opportunity that you don't get in other university subjects to sort of develop a relationship and actually be able to explore your personal interests with someone who gets to know you well. So Nick and I would send a lot of emails back and forth as I was exploring the city and exploring what concepts and ideas I wanted to, um, explore in my research. Um, and I was given plenty of time to do that and plenty of time to consider. And there was a number of challenges that were met throughout the progress of the research. And [00:16:30] Nick was able to support me. Sometimes I just send an email being like this has happened. I don't know what to do. And you like, all these things change. Um, it was a number of changes in my research topic at the time. And you are really sort of supported, um, both mentally and academically through the whole process, um, which I think is a real sort of Testament TTS that they provide you that proper support throughout the whole year. Yeah.

Speaker 1:        Thanks so much, Holly. And it must be difficult to say that while you're speaking to me. Okay. So we do [00:17:00] have, um, we have Holly here obviously is talking about her experience, but we do have student blogs and you can see the website there on the screen. So you can, um, hop onto that website and look at the experiences of, um, uh, recent graduates of, um, international studies, um, in all of the different majors, not just in Spain. So you can look at perhaps, uh, different countries, for example, in Japan or in Italy, for example, and look at what students did, what their experience was like [00:17:30] and how it was very life-changing for them. All right. So Holly's already been, um, speaking to us about her experience, but perhaps Holly, would you mind, I'm sorry, outlining to the participants of this seminar, uh, what your career trajectory was like and how mean to national studies degree helped you?

Speaker 2:        Well, I, when I started my degree, I really had no idea what I wanted to do. I kind of just [00:18:00] picked this degree because it was interesting and it blind with my passions and I wanted to go on an exchange. Um, but it gave me so much more than I expected while I was so in my fourth year, I still didn't really know what I wanted to do career wise, but when I was in Spain, it became really clear to me. Um, and that was through that sort of mentorship opportunity that I discovered that, um, it's actually public policy is my passion and something that I'm really, um, I'm interested in. So I was able to sort of discover that while overseas, um, which I know a number [00:18:30] of other students have as well. Um, so I pursued a research topic that was relevant to public policy.

Speaker 2:        And then, um, upon completing my degree, I was able to apply for jobs in the government sector and, um, was pretty quickly successful because I was able to sort of talk about in interviews. My, um, I actually only did one, uh, in-person interview and got the job. So, um, that was good. I able to talk about my experience in Spain in the interview and talk [00:19:00] about, uh, the research that I conducted and I think it was, um, quite respected. And as a result, I've now got a job as an assistant advisor for the cabinet team in new south Wales government. So at the moment I work on, um, public policy in the department of planning industry and environment, which is my personal interest. And I also work on cabinet meetings and national cabinet coordination as well. Um, which does have a bit of that sort of international focus. And I [00:19:30] tied a lot of the stuff that I want in my international studies degree. Um, and I'm going to continue to pursue a career in this direction, and there's so many opportunities and it's really nice to have a degree behind me that gives me those skills that I know I can use at work every day

Speaker 1:        And holiday, just very quickly. The last question, do you think that employers value students that have intercultural skills and an international study abroad experience? Yeah, I definitely

Speaker 2:        Think so. Um, just looking at my team, um, at work, we're a very [00:20:00] young team and I would say majority of people, maybe 80% have done it overseas exchange. Um, international studies is probably the most popular degree across people in my workplace. Um, and it's very, um, well-respected, and I also, not only the sort of perception of it, I think that for me, it really was a maturing experience, um, and helped me sort of get clarity and, you know, I have a really good time of assays, but also come home and reflect and have that sort of clarity about what I want to do and, [00:20:30] um, what my passions are and what I want to do with my life. And I think that really helps me to then step forward and take that next step and get a job and, um, the suit of Korean.

Speaker 1:        Thanks so much, Holly. Um, and I, we happy to now take questions from, from the audience. Okay. So I see, um, a question about whether it helps to have done a couple of languages for the HSC, for example, Japanese and Spanish. [00:21:00] Um, it doesn't necessarily help because, um, in international studies at UTS, you can start with no language experience. So if you haven't done a language experience at all, that's not a problem. You'll just start at the introductory level one. If you do have a language experience, for example, say even the HSC or, um, or in, or in other places, that's fine as well. So you would speak with the language coordinator in the school of international studies, um, [00:21:30] and they perhaps will do a brief level test and they will put you in the rad, the right level for you. So you perhaps you might not start at level one, but you might start at level three or level four, and then continue just looking at the question. So first similar second one. Yes. So there's another question about, you have to learn a whole new language. So the answer is, yes, you do need to learn one of those six languages as part of the international studies degree.

Speaker 1:        [00:22:00] Um, yes. Again, so learning a language is, is a compulsory part of the degree. I think I answered the question for the person who's done Italian beginners. You would be able to begin, um, at the level that's appropriate for you. Someone asks, do you get to choose which language you learn? Um, yes. So we have the six options and you can definitely [00:22:30] choose whichever one of those six you're interested in. And we also a question about whether you can go to Latin America for the six months exchange. Uh, yes, of course we have, uh, partner relationships in, in many, uh, Latin American universities, including in chiller in Argentina and Columbia, in Costa Rica, in Mexico, as well as others.

Speaker 1:        [00:23:00] There's also a question about what's the difference between a global exchange for six months. Um, and also I suppose the, the international honors degree. So the global exchange means that you have more options of where to go. Um, but obviously the period that you study overseas 46 months instead of the full year, but with the global exchange, you will only be doing elective subjects. So it basically you'll be able to go to one of those 200 plus [00:23:30] universities, um, and you will be able to choose, uh, the subjects you will, you want to study. Um, and you'll be able to do that because they are your elective subjects with international honors degree. Um, you are expected to continue to improve your language proficiency, um, and by the second semester, because it's because it's a whole year, you will be doing art subjects in the target language and the language you've been studying, um, as well, [00:24:00] you will also be working on your honors level project at the same time, uh, throughout the four years. So it's a very intense, yeah. Did you find it very intense? Um, Holly,

Speaker 2:        Um, I found learning, um, classes at the Spanish university quite intense, but I will say that, uh, UTS really does support you through that and understands if, um, like I know I struggled with some of my subjects, um, and UTS were very supportive, very understanding of, okay, maybe that class was a bit too hard. We don't expect [00:24:30] you to be able to write, um, a couple of essays in an exam. So, um, I wouldn't stress too much about that. Um, I really focused on doing well in my honors project because that was really a worthwhile thing. And I was able to also just pick subjects that were a bit of fun when I was there. So I did like, um, Latin American film and women in history and sort of subjects that were just aligned to my personal interests. Um, so it wasn't too stressful of an experience and there's still plenty of time to potty and have a good time.

Speaker 1:        [00:25:00] Yeah. Um, there's also a question about, uh, whether it's a bachelor's degree. Yes, of course. It's a, it's a bachelor's degree. Um, so remember when we say to combined degree at UTS, so you will be doing it with another degree at the same time. So for example, law or business, for example, so this means you graduate with two bachelor's degrees. Um, and there's also a question about what, uh, why it's now called a bachelor of international studies instead of a bachelor of arts and international studies. [00:25:30] Uh, there's absolutely no difference. Um, we have changed the name, uh, basically basically because in order to make it shorter, um, and we think that employers and students prefer the shorter name, but there's absolutely no difference at all. Um, so I think Holly answered the question about how much time you have overseas. So you do get definitely support the students, get time to have fun there, to travel, et cetera.

Speaker 2:        Yeah, I did four and a half months in my year of just traveling in between semesters. [00:26:00] So there's plenty of time to move around. Like I just traveled all over Europe, um, in between semesters. So you don't need to worry about that.

Speaker 1:        Uh, there's also, uh, the costs involved with global exchange. Um, obviously this depends, this depends on, uh, where you decide to go because the cost of living is different. Um, and if you want to go, for example, to a major city in a Western country, the costs can be significant. On the other hand, if you go to a more provincial [00:26:30] smaller city, the cost can be much lower. Um, there are also S help loans. So these are loans that the government gives to students in order to help them with the expenses of, um, of going overseas. Uh, Holly, do you wanna talk a little bit about what the expenses were like?

Speaker 2:        Um, so I picked Granada, which was the Southern, um, city in Spain, which was quite affordable. That was one of the reasons I picked it. I didn't want any sort of financial stress, um, and it was really affordable [00:27:00] way cheaper than Sydney. Um, so it was quite easy to just stick to budget and not spend too much money. Um, but I know people in some of the biggest cities were fine as well. You get, you can get up to about $14,000 added to your help, um, loan from the government towards the year. I would suggest like saving up your own money at the same time, like while you study. Um, but you've got plenty of financial support and UTS also helps, um, with a little bit of money as well, which is good.

Speaker 1:        Thanks, Holly. [00:27:30] Um, there's a quick question about whether the degree has changed on the UX side. It should be changed. Um, this is a recent change of the name and it should be done by on the UX side as well. Um, there's a question about whether an international studies degree helps you get a job in a global corporation, um, organization, for example, such as the UN um, yes, definitely. And if you go to our website, we had our 25 year, um, um, anniversary of the degree just a couple of years ago, and [00:28:00] we highlight 25 different students in their career paths. So that's would be, um, I think interesting reading for students interested in this degree. There's also a question about whether you can stay on campus while you're overseas, or whether you ability with a family, um, for the one-year exchange. Uh, yes, this is possible.

Speaker 1:        So when students, um, students put in their preferences for the different universities in, in a partner country, and while [00:28:30] students negotiate those preferences with their major coordinator, um, they're also given, um, explanations and information about the different accommodation options. Now, most UTS students choose to just, uh, rent an apartment or, or do share accommodation because that ends up being, I think the cheapest option, uh, but, or, well, most universities have student accommodation and most universities also have a service in order to be able to bill that students with, [00:29:00] um, with a family, a local family. Uh, Holly, what about your cohort? Did, did any students do that or were they all living in shared accommodation? I'm not,

Speaker 2:        I didn't know anyone that did in Spain. I don't think, um, not, not on any of my friends across Spain, but I just did a, um, got an apartment for myself and lived with, um, some other girls from across Germany, France and Spain, um, in a share house. And it was a real, real good [00:29:30] time and it was quite easy to just find my own apartment. And if you it's, cause it's a lot of the places, the university towns, so there's plenty of demand for students to just rent a room, um, and you can get really nice apartments, um, and have that sort of like independence. You can have parties and things at your place like Ross is being on campus or that sort of thing, but there's plenty of options depending on what your preferred.

Speaker 1:        Yeah. And Holly, there was a question I think is, is important about a student who, uh, was [00:30:00] asking you how you found being, studying a Spanish language at a Spanish university with just a few years of language learning at UTS.

Speaker 2:        Um, I think that if I had been a bit of a better student at UTS, um, I would've been a bit easier, but, um, it's pretty, you can pick it up pretty quick once you're in the country as well, because you're just exposed to it every single day. So, um, I also had the opportunity while in my first semester in Spain, uh, UTS had language courses as well. So in [00:30:30] my first semester, it depends on the university you go to, but I did, um, two days a week of Spanish classes while I was in Spain still and got an accreditation from that as well as doing just one, you know, normal university course class, which, um, was perfectly fine to pass because I had the two years of UTS Spanish experience plus learning Spanish while in Spain speaking. And every day you very quickly can just sort of adapt. And, um, the university [00:31:00] was quite understanding too, that, you know, it's not your first language, they don't expect perfect grammar or any of that sort of stuff. Um, so yeah, it was perfect. It was very good.

Speaker 1:        Excellent. And just very quickly two last questions. So one, um, there's a question about whether this degree can help, uh, with a career in hotel management. Um, that's a definite yes, because the focus of this degree is on intercultural skills. Um, and that's something that the large hotels, uh, are especially keen on and looking for, um, in the people [00:31:30] that they hire. And the last question is about w what's the difference between an international studies degree and a global studies degree. Now a global studies degree, um, as you can see from, from the word global is about studying the global system, right? So that includes global processes. For example, things like, uh, globalization, uh, globalization of the economy, governments, um, the economy, et cetera. So it's looking, um, on a macro [00:32:00] level, um, uh, about the, the global system and international studies degree is more about the intercultural skills.

Speaker 1:        It's more about you, uh, developing the capacity to, um, to understand, uh, coaches, um, and you do that through a very deep study of one particular language and one particular society. Um, and so you, so you, international studies focuses on the language learning, uh, it focuses on, uh, you being able to communicate [00:32:30] well with people from other cultures. Um, and yeah, so, and although you do, or it does also encompass some of the international processes, it's more about, uh, you know, focus on one particular region or one particular society. Another question just came through, so when are you overseas? And you're expected to do all your exams in that language. Um, so yes, in the international [00:33:00] honors, when you're out at university, you do them in the language. Um, it depends on the language you were doing as well. So for example, if you're studying Japanese or Chinese, um, from zero, uh, you will mainly be doing art language learning, um, when you're doing your, um, international honors. So we don't expect you to be writing full on essays in Japanese or Chinese, whereas in the European languages students managed to do so. Um, but your [00:33:30] honors project is written in English. So you don't need to write your UTS assignments in the language. You will be doing that in English question for Holly. Did you find the accent in Granada hard to understand?

Speaker 2:        Yes, I did. Um, but it was a little bit of fun. I mean, we started speaking with the accent. Um, so I don't know, it was a bit of a little bit of a challenge, but also a bit of fun too. And you felt like you were really part of Granada and part of the Andalusian accent, which was, uh, a nice thing I think. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:        Yeah. [00:34:00] Thanks. And very quickly for that quick question, before the other question about where the English or the language, if you do the global exchange for six months, you can choose, uh, English language subjects, um, at that host university, if you feel you're not confident enough to, to study in the language that you are studying for the honors, you do need to study overseas in the language.

Speaker 2:        But like I said, don't worry too much about that. Um, UTS designs, the course that you can, like, I did start with [00:34:30] nothing in the language and gradually build up the skills and go over and you'll, you'll be fine. Everyone. I don't know anyone that didn't, um, uh, based in Spain that didn't do well, everyone was completely fine. So it's designed that you'll be okay with that.

Speaker 1:        Okay. I think we have answered all of your questions. Um, it's been a pleasure for us. I really want to extend a huge thank you to Holly for joining us this morning and taking the time out of her day to answer these questions for you. Uh, we hope we've [00:35:00] covered, uh, everything you wanted to know. Um, you can still ask questions after the session, right. There are, um, UTS is always open for questions. So please, um, you know, getting, get in touch with us and we hope to see you, uh, beginning your international study subjects with us next year. So have a good day, everyone. Thanks.

 

Speaker 1:        So hi everyone. Um, so before we do start, uh, I would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation upon who's a test or a lens I'm presenting from, and as well where the UTS city campus now sense I'd like to pay respect to the elders both past and present acknowledging them as the traditional custodians of knowledge for this land. So welcome to open date. We're excited to introduce this new [00:00:30] combined degree offering at UTS, the bachelor of sustainability and environment. My name is Dr. Christina Kinara, and I'm the degree coordinator. And joining me in this presentation is professor Kate Buckley, who is part of the core teaching team. So the bachelor of sustainability and environment is a combined degree that can be taken with a bachelor of science, the bachelor of health, the bachelor of business, the bachelor of economics and the bachelor of management. [00:01:00] So in this brief presentation, we'll discuss what this new degree is about and why we think you should study sustainability here with us at UTS.

Speaker 1:        So the bachelor of sustainability and environment engages with the big issue of our time, the sustainable future of our societies and our planet. So how do we limit global warming to Ballou two degrees? [00:01:30] How do we make cities more sustainable? How do we reduce land and water pollution? For example, there are over 5 trillion plastic pieces flirting in the open ocean together weighing up to nearly 300,000 tons, which get into the fish. We eat and kill Marine mammals and seabirds who mistake it for food equally important. How do we broaden the notion of environmental sustainability to better achieve gender equality, [00:02:00] social solidarity, and intergenerational equity. So these big questions have to be addressed in the here and now we need to start connecting, um, how these grand challenges, what these grand challenges mean for us. So for global warming, for example, how can we influence our governments to take action against climate change causes such as fossil fuel industries and impacts such as Bush fires, despite scientific and economic uncertainty [00:02:30] for building a sustainable city? What can we do to better balance environment, the environmental benefits of urbanization with its challenges, such as small Guinea increase traffic congestion, and then for the issue of cultural sustainability, what are the ways to improve participation from the most marginalized, for example, indigenous people in local development activities, and how can we do better to recognize that they are leaders are rights holders and decision-makers, [00:03:00] and finally, to reduce the amount of plastic sending up in the ocean, how can consumers and businesses do better to reduce plastic use and increase recycling.

Speaker 2:        This degree ends to meet these challenges ahead, particularly the demand for sustainability related expertise. Once government mandates sweeping sustainability initiatives, they'll have to rapidly scale up to meet demand. This degree will equip you with the knowledge, skills, and resources [00:03:30] to meet that demand. And at UTS, we believe what future experts this would require is multidisciplinary grounding research suggests that people with single discipline training, working in sustainability struggle with the complexity of sustainability in practice, especially the mix of social business and biophysical study than the United nations sustainable development goals, which are on the slide. The STGs show, the breadth and complexity of sustainability. [00:04:00] None of these things can be achieved in isolation from the others. For example, STG three on good health and wellbeing is underpinned by STGs one and two, the eradication of poverty and hunger. And it's also an underpinned by SDG six, providing clean water and sanitation for all these goals.

Speaker 2:        Plus many of the others such as seven, delivering affordable and clean energy, 12 enabling responsible consumption and production and 16 enabling strong [00:04:30] institutions that espouse peace and justice, which relate to seven, 12, and 16. They all combined to make possible STG 11, sustainable cities and communities and achieving all of those goals needed to address the, to address the social inequalities around gender race and the divide between rich and poor, which are STGs five and 10. And so it's significant to point out here as well, that the term environment in the degree name, sustainability [00:05:00] and environment, doesn't just relate to the natural environment and associated issues like climate change, but rather it's defined in broad terms to include social, cultural and political environment. The complexity of all of this is very challenging, but experience shows that trying to tackle these problems. One by one doesn't work, sustainability is about bringing together knowledge about people, cultures, politics, together with knowledge about the environment, resources [00:05:30] and the atmosphere, as well as engineering and innovation and using this integrated knowledge to improve our present and to plan our future.

Speaker 1:        So studying sustainability and environmental UTS means you will balance depth in an area of professional practice with the multidisciplinary knowledge needed to drive change. So this degree to add value and specialization on sustainability [00:06:00] to your professional degree. And part of this experience will include engaging with organizations and industry experts, experts across a range of sectors and different communities throughout your studies to address and gain experience tackling real world problems related to sustainable development. And so by the end, you will have gained practical, essential skills in problem solving data gathering and analysis, design thinking, project [00:06:30] management, stakeholder engagement, and communication in your studio subjects.

Speaker 1:        So in more detail, the bachelor of sustainability can be combined with the following degrees, bachelor of science, bachelor of health, bachelor of business, bachelor of management and bachelor of economics completing the combined degrees will involve four years of full-time study or eight years part-time. So it really does just add one extra year to your professional [00:07:00] degree. It's a comprehensive yet flexible study plan. So you'll complete 96 credit points required in your chosen professional degree. And then another 96 credit points in the bachelor of sustainability and environment, which will comprise of core compulsory subjects. And then a range of subjects that you can choose from in four key streams of industry governance, science, and society. So the bachelor of sustainability is designed to be complimentary to your professional [00:07:30] degree, science, health, business, economics, and management. These are fields that are entangled with the challenges of sustainability and who each play a vital role in navigating future solutions.

Speaker 2:        The core subjects are comprised of two first year introductory introductory subjects. The first is sustainability in context, which will introduce you to the different meanings and applications of the concept [00:08:00] of sustainability, the environmental, social, cultural, economic, and political from the get-go. We'll encourage you to think multidimensionally and critically about the various aspects of sustainability, how different priorities interact and come into conflict or create synergies. You'll be given foundations in written analysis, critical reading and group work at the same time, strengthening skills and communication and intercultural competence that are required for the why. Why does sustainability degree [00:08:30] the second introductory unit, which is called arguments evidence and intuition will introduce you to foundational approaches to data literacy, how to collect data, read data, and use it as supporting evidence specifically. It provides you with training on how to you use data to construct a new narrative, or to tell a story, pitching a sustainability solution to investors tendering for contract development initiative, or convincing your organization [00:09:00] to adopt sustainability programs. These all required skills in data literacy to use for evidence-based arguments

Speaker 1:        And then advancing from, uh, on your first year core subjects where you gained skills in data literacy and knowledge on the complexity of sustainability in your second year of study, you'll then take the course subject to monitoring evaluation and learning. So how do we know if this, uh, sustainability initiative has worked, whether it worked or not, how do organizations [00:09:30] learn from this experience? So in this subject, you'll draw on your understanding from your professional degree and from across humanistic and by a physical disciplines to think about what kinds of indicators, uh, and what kind of data best enable evaluation of progress towards meeting sustainability objectives, and then how to best feed this back into the policy and project cycle to ensure effective organizational learning. And then in your third and fourth year of study, [00:10:00] you move on to what are called capstone subjects. So these are subjects at the final years of your study, designed to draw together the theoretical strands of your degrees and prepare you for life beyond university and deeply embedded into these capstone level subjects is the development of skills like teamwork and project planning and management.

Speaker 2:        Aside from the core subjects, you'll then select two subjects each from three [00:10:30] of the following strains, plus two electives, which you can draw from any of the four strengths. These strains governance, science industry, and society and culture are designed to give students a breadth of knowledge and skills needed to deal with the different dimensions that pertain to sustainability issues. The science stream gives students foundational knowledge in the biophysical dimensions of sustainability. It introduces the ecological basis upon which we post questions [00:11:00] about sustainability. The governance stream engages with questions and challenges around global and local institutions and the national and transnational laws and policies that shape sustainability issues. The subjects in the industry stream challenged students to engage with real-world problems, to develop mindsets for innovation, and to bring you into a direct contact with professionals and practitioners in the sustainability field. Lastly, the society [00:11:30] and culture stream immerses students in the human side of sustainability people and communities and their cultural behaviors, social systems, and the histories and how these are bound up with the sustainability challenges we face.

Speaker 2:        These streams are meant to compliment your professional degree. And so your professional degree, which is the other degree you're doing will dictate which streams you need to choose from. For example, if you're doing a bachelor of science as your other degree, [00:12:00] you won't really be required to take the science stream, but instead complete subjects from the governance industry and society and culture streams. This is because you don't want too much overlap with the existing subjects. You've taken your science degree, or if you're taking the bachelor of business or economics or management, you won't be required to take the industry stream, but instead complete subjects from governance, science, and society and culture. Again, this is to avoid a one-sided degree on sustainability, [00:12:30] where the industry stream will come, will encompass a lot of what you've covered already in your business studies.

Speaker 1:        So how are you going to fit all of it in? So here's a sample study plan for combining the degree with a bachelor of business. So in your first year you would take four subjects in the business degree, and then two of the core introductory subjects in the bachelor of sustainability and environment, and then as well, commenced two subjects [00:13:00] in your designated sustainability and environment streams. You know, second year you take one core subject in the bachelor of sustainability and environment, and then two subjects in your designated sustainability stream. And then again, complete the core subjects of your business degree in years, three and four, you complete your major in the business degree, complete one capstone subject each year for the bachelor of sustainability environment. And you can complete your final subjects in your designated sustainability streams [00:13:30] across these years. You'll also have a couple of elective choices,

Speaker 2:        Just unmuting myself there, workplaces, including private companies, government and non-government organizations are hoping for graduates who are ready to make an impact right away and rapidly grow into sustainability leaders. Some organizations invest considerable resources in professional upskilling [00:14:00] and have training officers to execute their sustainability related work. But many organizations still have no option, but to outsource the more complicated work. So industry needs people equipped with a solid grounding in scientific cultural and economic knowledge combined with soft skills like data analysis, teamwork, and communication. It's also about the ability to actively challenge existing paradigms and to be comfortable with uncertainty. There is a sense of urgency around [00:14:30] the need for sustainability action in response to changes in regulation, public pressure and business risks, as well as to new opportunities. Entry-level positions include sustainability project officer in companies, government, and non organized non-government organizations, support development, delivery, and evaluation of initiatives and programs.

Speaker 2:        Other opportunities include sustainability consultant. Someone who carries that carries out research to provide advice on various sustainability [00:15:00] related improvements, or you could work as a business analyst training officer for compliance officer at a more senior level with experience and or postgraduate qualifications. One can work as a corporate social responsibility or sustainability director is in charge of designing and implementing strategies with respect to corporate responsibility, environmental, social governments, issues, responsible investment, and corporate citizenship. [00:15:30] There are other opportunities for more senior people in both large and small organizations, such as sustainability coordinator, senior sustainability advisor, or sustainability program manager.

Speaker 1:        So we want to finish off the presentation by emphasizing UTS has reputation, a reputation in producing industry ready graduates. So does the study at UTS means you will be gaining an edge over others when [00:16:00] you go out and compete for jobs as a graduate throughout your combined degree, you will gain industry exposure from the first year of study through to your final year of study. So industry engagement is deeply embedded into your coursework where you will apply theory to real world issues and scenarios that businesses, governments and communities are grappling with. And you will engage with these actors in your projects. So in the bachelor of sustainability and environment, we will bring industry experts, rep [00:16:30] representatives from the public sector, endures not-for-profits startups and local community practitioners into the classroom by a guest lectures and panels, project mentoring, and promote internship opportunities. And right here at UTS, we have an immense amount of expertise to also draw from researchers who are doing work at the forefront of sustainable development researchers from the Institute of sustainable futures, climate justice research center, the center for [00:17:00] social justice and inclusion and our core teaching team as well. Also value research inspired teaching, and we are directly engaged in applied research locally and globally in fields of Marine and fisheries, urban governance, city planning, community development, and social and cultural sustainability among others. And finally, a UTS feels to have a unit that's dedicated to fostering entrepreneurial-ism called UTS startups. And this is an exciting space for [00:17:30] sustainability leaders. Thank you.

Speaker 1:        I think we'll open it to questions. [00:18:00] Yeah. So we've got a question from Molly. Do I do go in any field studies in this course? Yes. So you do field work, um, from the very first, uh, year, um, uh, you go on, um, [00:18:30] uh, you go to a field excursion, so you gradually build your skills in how to do field work, um, whether that be quantitative or qualitative, uh, but as well as skills in community engagement. Kate, did you want to add anything to that?

Speaker 2:        Um, no, I think I might have, um, removed the question from your feed. So am I clicking the wrong button? Um, just, yeah, we start with the field studies from the first subject, which I'm teaching at the moment, [00:19:00] sustainability in context. And unfortunately because of the lockdown, we're not doing the field trip this this time, but we will of course do it in future semesters. And it went really well in the, in the first session this year. And, um, then there were some, there will be field studies also imagining, um, the, the professional degrees that students are doing.

Speaker 1:        Oh, yes, that's right. And your professional degrees, you will also, okay. [00:19:30] Can you go into city planning sector from this degree,

Speaker 2:        Kate? Yeah, I, I mentioned you could, um, there was city planning degrees. I imagine, particularly if you do one of the business related degrees, you may then be able to work as a graduate in a city planning area and then do a post-graduate degree in city planning. But, um, sustainability definitely fits really well with the, with city [00:20:00] planning as a career.

Speaker 1:        So city planning is, can be very broad depending on what, what, um, you could be an actual, you know, surveyor or, uh, uh, so it's, uh, it can be broad or a community development, uh, or in community development. So that's all in a range of city planning. So depending on what it is, uh, what aspect, but definitely an expertise in sustainability would be key or put, give you that edge to city planning.

Speaker 2:        [00:20:30] We have another question there about the benefit of doing this combined degree, as opposed to just as a standalone degree. So there's the, there is no standalone degree offered at UTS in sustainability environment. We only offer it as a combined degree, but if you were to do it the other degree, so if you just to do a business degree, say, or a health degree, uh, the benefit is adding the sustainability aspect [00:21:00] too to that base degree. So that, that that's the benefit. You get more study you're ha you're more, you've got more multi-disciplinary skills and you've got the ability to work in the sustainability area.

Speaker 1:        So what kind of jobs could come out of the management sustainability combination? Kate, did you want to address that one?

Speaker 2:        Well, that, um, second last slide we have, if you [00:21:30] go back to that slide. Yeah. The management plus sustainability degree would pretty much work for most of those, um, options there. So, uh, you then to graduate programs and be working as a sustainability project officer, especially if it's, um, any kind of organization really management is relevant for all kinds of organizations. And [00:22:00] I mean, maybe, maybe not something like heritage planner, possibly, because that would require a different set of skills, but almost all of the other ones would mix well with management.

Speaker 1:        So when was this degree introduced? So this, uh, um, started last year. So we had our first intake, um, for the degree last year. Um, the students love it. They really do. And, um, uh, yeah, it's been exciting to build, uh, [00:22:30] the degree, um, and as well gain input from their experience and what they'd like to see. Uh, so yeah, it's been exciting to introduce this new degree.

Speaker 2:        And the next question there is about whether the course fits well with social work. I think possibly a bit like city planning. Uh, you might need another graduate degree afterwards, but possibly the fit with social work and sustainability [00:23:00] might be less connected than city planning. I'm not sure maybe Christine,

Speaker 1:        I think, I mean, um, yeah, I kind of work in the social field and so, uh, I do think it connects because increasingly that is kind of, um, you know, what, what industry is telling us is not, is that the issues, not so much the science behind sustainability, but it's, um, more the human side, [00:23:30] the people side, understanding people, knowing how to work with people and grappling with the complexity of, um, differences across communities and their needs and their priorities and so on. And so social work, uh, it's a broad field depending on what you, what you want to get into. But I think understanding, cause sustainability initiative, firstly, environmental, um, uh, problems impact the Merced on, uh, there's a, what disadvantage, [00:24:00] there's a marginalized and so on. And so, um, sustainability initiatives then need to take into account, um, these communities more than ever before. So, uh, I think, um, yeah, understanding sustainability particularly around kind of sustainability is, um, social justice and inclusion, uh, connects very strongly with social work, but yes, you need to take, [00:24:30] uh, you know, social work is a specific kind of qualification. Uh, and so, but social work also quite broad in that it could be other things like, you know, community research or community developments or, um, but they definitely connected because sustainability is an issue about the social.

Speaker 1:        So are there environmental club and is, are there environmental clubs and societies that UTS? Yes, there's a few. And, um, we [00:25:00] have been connecting with them, uh, as, uh, the degree with the, um, the clubs. And so there is actually an active, um, UTS is very active in terms of sustainability. It's very committed to sustainability. Um, they have, uh, a specific, um, uh, unit that, uh, that, uh, drives, um, you know, initiatives that students can get involved in our students. Um, even just from starting, uh, um, uh, [00:25:30] just starting students who have already been involved in a range of, uh, sustainability initiatives, um, related to social clubs, uh, in student clubs and as well, um, UTS as sustainability,

Speaker 2:        We have time for just one more quick question about the difference between this degree and doing a science degree with an environmental science major. The main difference there is the multidisciplinarity, um, science degree with an environmental science [00:26:00] major. You may have a range of disciplines within science there, but you're not going to have the business, um, and the social and cultural and historical and political, um, content that you get in this, the combined degree that we're offering at UTS, the whole focus of what we would, what we want this degree to be at UTS is multidisciplinary, so that you can tackle those complex challenges that are visible in that matrix of the, um, the UN [00:26:30] sustainable development goals, where there's all sorts of things mixed up that are to do with people, not just the science, so science plus other things. So that's all the questions and we've come to the end of the session open for this degree. So I'd like to thank everyone for attending and wondering if Christine had anything else to say,

Speaker 1:        [00:27:00] Oh, no, thank you for attending. And we hope, uh,